Shai is perfectly right. Here is another back-of-an-envelope
calculation:

We consider magnetic disks. The smallest domain size physically capable
of storing magnetic information is about 3nm, 10^-17 m^2. The useable
area of a disk platter is about 50 cm^2 = 5*10^-3 m^2, that is, the
number of bits on a platter cannot be more than 2*10^13. With the servo
information, error correcting codes, etc. it translates to about 2 TB.
This is a physical limit. You are speaking about 2^64 blocks of 16
bytes each = 2^68 bytes. It takes 2^67/10^12 = 148 million disk
platters to store that much data.

Don't spend our time discussing such unrealistic scenarios.

Laszlo

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: p1619 (disk): Security level of LRW
> From: "Shai Halevi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, January 04, 2006 3:47 am
> To: "SISWG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > > (I will spare you the back-of-an-envelope 
> > > calculation of how long does it take to send 2^64 blocks over 
> > > a 100 Gbit/sec link.)
> > 
> > I think this argument is not very relivant.  There was a time when 2^32
> > block was considered huge and 2^48 blocks was and impossibly large size.
> 
> ok, so I will not spare you the calculation: it takes roughly 550 years
> to send 2^64 blocks over a 128 Gbit/sec link. This says nothing about the
> time to compute things or protocol overhead, just the time to move the
> raw bits over the link.
> 
> (2^64 * 16 * 8 bits) / (128 * 2^30 bits/sec) =2^34 seconds =544.77 years
> 
> -- Shai

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