Dear Crispin, Stovers,

If I understand the problem, and with what I know about turbidity vs weight for soil samples I am not surprised. I think the tests for soil (silt-clay) can also be used for dust particles. Turbidity is a measure of light reflecting off the sides of particles and measured. The problem is if you have a cubic centimeter of particle that weights one gram you have light reflecting off 6 one centimeter surfaces. Cut that in half and you have 8 one centimeter surfaces reflecting light- More light-Same weight! Cut again to make smaller particles and you see the problem. Lots of light reflection with the same weight particle.

In Silt-Clay: To measure the percentages of different fractions from silt to clay (0.35um to 0.001 um) using reflecting light we mix a weight of soil screened < 0.35um in a 15 cm high test tube with water. We add detergent and sonicate to disperse the particles. We determine the turbidity 10 cm down from the top and plot the decrease vs time as the large heavy particles fall faster than the small ones. Based on the first reflected reading after mixing as 100%, we can determine the percent of each sub-fraction by time and decrease in reflected light. We normalize the reflected light reading by assuming the particles all being spheres and the change in surface (reflected) area as the particle diameter decreases.

To do the same with stove emissions we need to know the total weight of particles in a volume of gas. Done by weighing a filter paper before and after. Then quickly pump some emission gas into a tank, stop all air movement (seal the container) and measure the decreasing reflected light as the particles fall over time. Assume all particles being the same density (density determined using acetone method) and having the same shape (sphere) and knowing the rate that weight falls in air, we can come up with the diameter of particles passing through the light for each time span. Could take a long time for the very small particles. Convert the reflected light (normalize) to the diameter of the particle so the weight is the same as if a gram of particle made of one chunk is equal to that gram particle broken up into a million particles reflecting a lot more light.

We need to know the grams/cc of the particles in the emissions gas.
We need to know the rate it falls in air.
We need to assume they are all the same shape being cube or sphere.

Not a fast flow-through procedure.

Thanks
Frank
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Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:

Dear Friends



Via Robert van der Plas..



In section 7 it says that others (for example Ryde and Johansson, 2007)
found condensable particle mass (which are picked up using a diluter) to
exceed solid particle mass by as much as 10:1. It kinda speaks against the
worthiness of running biomass stove tests using 'hot' dry dust measurements.



Regards

Crispin



http://www.ieabcc.nl/publications/Nussbaumer_et_al_IEA_Report_PM10_Jan_2008.
pdf



"For existing stoves and

boilers, ideal operation is regarded as a major target to reduce PM
emissions. Furthermore, the method

of ignition is important for the PM emissions of wood stoves and boilers.
For typical wood stoves,

ignition from the top of the batch of wood logs instead of ignition from the
bottom can often avoid

visible smoke during start-up and reduce the total PM emissions by more than
50%. For log wood

boilers, beside optimised ignition and start-up, the implementation of a
heat storage tank is essential,

as thanks to a heat storage, part-load operation related to high PM
emissions can be avoided. With

respect to the measurement of PM emissions, the mass on solid particles in
the hot flue gas (as

collected on filters) and the additional mass of condensables need to be
distinguished. Under poor

combustion conditions, the mass of condensables can exceed the mass of solid
particles and hence

should be considered in future immission inventories.




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