Thanks Freddy, that's just what I need!



> From: Freddy Daoud <fda...@...>
> Subject: Re: Stripes Spring JPA
> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.java.stripes.user
> Date: 2009-06-15 17:39:32 GMT (13 hours and 39 minutes ago)
> 
> Hey Mr. DJ :)
> 
> > 1. The client has heard of Struts and knows it 'works'.
> 
> While that may be comforting, it's a weak argument. We know just plain
> Servlets work; it doesn't mean we'd recommend developing webapps with
> just plain Servlets.
> 
> > Stripes also 'works'. I've worked on real-world apps with Stripes and
> so have others. It's way past the "only demos have been built with it"
> stage.
> 
> 2. Nobody (in France) knows Stripes (he does all the 'technical'
> interviews).
> 
> I'd argue that all Struts 1 resources are eligible to be considered as
> Stripes resources. As you've mentioned, it takes very little time for a
> Struts 1 dev to learn Stripes. It's mostly about unlearning the habit of
> having to maintain a bunch of config files.
> 
> > 3. Why should he propose an unheard of framework?
> 
> Innovation. Doing something just because everyone else is doing it, when
> that something is using Struts 1, deprives you of having an edge on your
> competition.
> 
> > 4. Once the project is 'finished' and we're all gone, how will the
> client find other developers with stripes skills?
> 
> See #2. Find a Struts dev and they'll get up to speed with Stripes in
> little time.
> 
> > 5. Why should the client accept training his internal staff when they 
> already 'know' Struts, and no one uses it or has heard of it.
> 
> Because the return on the investment will keep coming in again and again
> as your developers will be much more productive, developing new features
> and maintaining applications. The number of days of development and
> maintenance of applications being much, much higher than the number of
> days of training required to learn Stripes, it's easy to see the payoff.
> 
> Also, less code means less maintenance. I haven't done any metrics with
> Struts, but with JSF our switch to Stripes resulted in 40% less code 
> overall.
> 
> Finally, for training, there is (apologies/disclaimer/warning: shameless
> plug in 3, 2, 1) a Stripes book available :)
> 
> Hope that helps. Let us know what happens.
> 
> Cheers,
> Freddy
> http://www.stripesbook.com
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