I don't think anyone is trying to say that Struts isn't useful without Tiles/Validator. They *are* very handy though, IMHO!

I'm not sure what our leadership has in mind for deprecating/removing Tiles/Validator in later releases. Right now, the task at hand is 1.1F. As Ted mentioned, "... the die is cast ...". We just need to execute and deliver.

Joe Germuska wrote:

At 2:26 PM -0600 2002/10/16, David Graham wrote:

To me, validator and tiles are part of the core. Without them, struts loses much of its utility and importance.
I think that's a bit extreme. Action classes are part of the core; RequestProcessor is part of the core. I've built several Struts apps and barely touched either Tiles or Validator, and haven't missed them. Furthermore, Validator will be mostly obsoleted by Java Server Faces.

If committers think it's best to keep them in the core distribution, I'm not going to make a fuss about it. But I think it's selling Struts very short to suggest that it's not very useful or important if you aren't using Validator or Tiles. And if decoupling useful components from a core distribution helps maintain focus and cut a 1.1 release, I would think there's something to be said for that.

Joe

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