Re: Making Struts Build Easier (Re: "coming out" for JSF + Struts, was: Struts JSR?)

[Michael McGrady]

I have a somewhat "nutty" suggestion.  I suggest that we have someone who 
is an "administrative" genius with a flair for teaching and simple 
statement be an available guide to assist new people in getting the proper 
builds to work on struts.  Such a person would, I predict, be worth 100 
times there weight in gold to this list.  How this should work is, of 
course, up for discussion.  Maybe, also, for some reason I don't know, this 
idea is a clunker.

Michael

At 06:28 AM 3/22/2004, you wrote:
For me, the main discouraging thing about contributing to the development 
of Struts has been the build process.  In the past, you had to download 
all of jakarta-commons and spend a day or two figuring out how to get 
that to build.  Recently, I tried to build Struts and was successful 
using the Maven stuff.  Personally, I don't mind using Maven, but I don't 
know that it should be *required* to build a project from scratch.  I'd 
love to be able to cvs co Struts, navigate to jakarta-struts and type 
"ant jar".

I realize this is no easy thing to accomplish with a build file - but it 
has been the most discouraging factor for me. ;-)
The only way we could accomplish something like that with a build file 
would be by including JARs in CVS, and if you ask me, there are enough 
reasons why that's a bad idea that I prefer the way it is, even though I'd 
very much like to see people feel more comfortable getting in and working 
on Struts source code.

When you say "I don't know that [Maven] should be *required*..." is your 
point that Ant is a widely accepted Java tool, while Maven has yet to cut 
a 1.0 release?  That's fair -- just want to make sure I understand you.

The build.xml file generated by 'maven ant' uses the ant 'get' task and 
the Maven iBiblio repository to download dependencies; we could perhaps 
look at copying some of that into our ant script to reduce 
build.properties to being more about configuration stuff and less about 
dependency stuff.

Joe

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