Ya, sorry....I couldn’t resist.

James Mitchell
Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.open-tools.org




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karr, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:24 PM
> To: 'Struts Developers List'
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] How should Tiles be refactored?
>
>
> Oh.  Sheesh, it's not even Thursday.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:22 PM
> > To: Struts Developers List
> > Subject: RE: [VOTE] How should Tiles be refactored?
> >
> >
> > You sure about that?  ;)
> >
> > James Mitchell
> > Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> > http://www.open-tools.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karr, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:18 PM
> > > To: 'Struts Developers List'
> > > Subject: RE: [VOTE] How should Tiles be refactored?
> > >
> > >
> > > Could we have a ruling on this, please?  As far as I can
> > tell, it's still
> > > Thursday, in all parts of the world.
> > >
> > > ;)
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:14 PM
> > > > To: Struts Developers List
> > > > Subject: RE: [VOTE] How should Tiles be refactored?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, I know I'm not a committer and all <hanging-head>, but
> > > > for what its
> > > > worth...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  [   ] I want Tiles to have an independent (non-shared)
> > configuration
> > > >         for each module.  No future change is required IMHO.
> > > >
> > > >  [   ] I want Tiles to have an independent (non-shared)
> > configuration
> > > >        for each module.  I think we should revisit this
> > > > decision after 1.1F.
> > > >
> > > >  [ x ] I DON'T think we should allow naked pictures of the
> > > > committers on the
> > > >        main page....DOH!!!!  HAHAHAHA!!!!
> > > >
> > > >  [   ] I want tiles to have a (possibly) dependent (shared)
> > > > configuration
> > > >        for each module in the 1.1F release.
> > > >              - modules would chain lookup from the current
> > > > module to the
> > > >                default module (or something else)
> > > >              - could be turned on/off by a switch which
> > > > defaults to off
> > > >
> > > >  [   ] I want tiles to have a different configuration (Elaborate).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > James "...and you thought I was serious for a sec huh?" Mitchell
> > > > Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> > > > http://www.open-tools.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:49 PM
> > > > > To: Struts Developers List
> > > > > Subject: [VOTE] How should Tiles be refactored?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There's been a lot of discussion on how 1.1 final
> > should look, and I
> > > > > think it's good to have such discussions.  We (commiters
> > > > and non), being
> > > > > tasked with implementing everything that "is" Struts 1.1,
> > > > need to have a
> > > > > clear picture of exactly what that means.  Now, when it
> > > > gets right now
> > > > > to brass tacks, it's irrelevant to me which way we go on
> > > > this (right now
> > > > > - I think my position is well-known).  Something has to be
> > > > done though.
> > > > >  Progress needs to be made, and to make progress we must
> > > > have a clear
> > > > > understanding of how we should proceed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tiles will not work as expected with modules and that needs
> > > > to be fixed.
> > > > >  What form should it take?  I'm tired of speculation.
> > I'm happy to
> > > > > study Tiles and determine what needs to change, but I will
> > > > not take the
> > > > > decision of how to implement it upon myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please bear in mind that we have folks waiting on 1.1F very
> > > > anxiously
> > > > > and that any behavior can be rectified in a later release.
> > > > Also note
> > > > > that refactoring to support a dependent configuration
> > would not undo
> > > > > (that I can see) any change which would be required to make the
> > > > > configurations entirely independent.  That is a
> > necessary step.  The
> > > > > only question is if/when the next step of allowing
> > sharing across
> > > > > modules should occur.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cast your vote.
> > > > >
> > > > >     [   ] I want Tiles to have an independent (non-shared)
> > > > configuration
> > > > > for each module.  No future change is required IMHO.
> > > > >     [   ] I want Tiles to have an independent (non-shared)
> > > > configuration
> > > > > for each module.  I think we should revisit this decision
> > > > after 1.1F.
> > > > >     [   ] I want tiles to have a (possibly) dependent (shared)
> > > > > configuration for each module in the 1.1F release.
> > > > >             - modules would chain lookup from the current
> > > > module to the
> > > > > default module (or something else)
> > > > >             - could be turned on/off by a switch which
> > > > defaults to off
> > > > >     [   ] I want tiles to have a different configuration
> > > > (Elaborate).
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Eddie Bush
> > > > >
> > > > >
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