Robert Leland wrote: 

>The standard has always been that the Struts 1.1 release will depend on

>released version of the commons-xxxxx.jar's.


>The RC1 and others depend on the nightly builds of commons-xxx because
>they almost always fix more bugs than they create. What --released-- 
>version of commons-xxx.jar's we use will likely be taken on a case by
>case basis. I know that beanutils & digester have reciently had a new 
>release, and that Martin has released the first version of 
>commons-fileupload.

>We always welcome contributions to the code base, especially unit
tests.

My inability to contribute at this time is the exact reason that I
hesitated to send my email in the first place.  I very much appreciate
all the hard work and dedication that developers like you provide to
developers like me.  I apologize if you found it offensive.  

>If you are not satified with their quality then contribute, that is
>what open source is all about.

I had thought that ideas were considered contributions as well, and did
not intend my question to be derogatory or implying dissatisfaction.  I
merely hoped to point out that statements on the Struts website
concerning nightly builds coupled with 2 consecutive releases of Struts
depending on Logging nightly builds was confusing to those not in the
inner circle.  I had hoped that my feedback would help improve the
process for others in the future and be taken into consideration by the
inner circle.  

>Also, this message would have better been posted on the struts-user
list.

Since my comments were not a question concerning configuration but more
an opinion on release policy, I had thought it better suited to the
developer list.  

I understand your frustration to field "complaints" from
non-contributors, but contend that spreading the word and putting struts
into a few customer sites provides some contribution, however small.  I
sincerely hope to provide a significant contribution once I have
completed my current project.  I will see what I can do to help get the
next release of Commons Logging out.  


Thank you! 

Gary


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