For what my non-contributor opinion's worth, I totally agree with David. So far as I know, while JSTL is not _required_ by the standard for JSP <1.2, it does not _require_ 1.2 -- and can be used with 1.1 containers; so saying "use JSTL" does not translate to "upgrade to Servlet 2.3".
Shai. -----Original Message----- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 07:41 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Support for non-JSTL tags (was RE: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag) --- Steve Raeburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not singling Vic out for this (honest) but... > > The standard advice we are now giving everyone is "use JSTL", which I > wholeheartedly agree with and have said myself. However, I think we need > to > make sure that we still adequately support non-JSTL solutions and > continue > to consider bug fixes/enhancements to Struts tags EVEN where it would > duplicate JSTL functionality because Struts still supports JSP > 1.1/Servlet2.2. I strongly disagree with that. Duplicating standard functionality is a complete waste of time. If someone wants something available in the JSTL they should just use the JSTL. Struts goal in life isn't to duplicate standards. We should absolutely fix bugs in the existing tags and provide tags that aren't available elsewhere. Having said that, I won't stop you or any other committer from donating time to developing tags that duplicate JSTL functionality. However, I can't justify spending my own time maintaining or fixing bugs in such tags. > > I haven't considered whether this particular enhancement would fall into > the > category of something we should do, it just prompted me to raise the > issue. > > If we've reached the stage where the recommendations we are making > *require* > JSTL, then I think it's time to be honest about the required platform > for > Struts and up it to 1.1/2.3 I don't see how the Servlet version required for JSTL is relevant to Struts. We're making the reasonable recommendation that people use standard technologies instead of the propriety Struts counterparts. The Struts tags have served us well for a long time but IMO its time to let most of them fade away gracefully. David > > Thoughts? > > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: August 27, 2003 8:28 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21465] - Enhancement of the html:link tag > > > > > > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG > > RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT > > <http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21465>. > > ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND > > INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE. > > > > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21465 > > > > Enhancement of the html:link tag > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: > > > > What |Removed |Added > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ---------- > > Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED > > Resolution| |WONTFIX > > > > > > > > ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 2003-08-28 03:27 ------- > > You can/should use JSTL instead. > > .V > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Confidentiality Notice: This email transmission may contain confidential or legally privileged information that is intended only for the individual or entity named in the e-mail address. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance upon the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please reply to the sender, so that arrangements can be made for proper delivery, and then please delete the message from your inbox. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
