> -----Original Message----- > From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 November 2003 18:01 > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: [OT] RE: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/doc/resources > archives.xml co nsultants.xml powered.xml sigs.xml > > > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, PILGRIM, Peter, FM wrote: > > > WOW WEE! Politicking on the Struts DEV list. > > I fail to see any politics involved. Everyone is free to voice > their opinion. Everyone is free to make an ass of > themselves. Everyone > is free to make an ass of themselves in the most public ways possible. >
On the serious side. I disagree. This whole argument is about policy and standards of professional practice. Where there is policy there is usefully some politics involved, however much you and I may hate to get into or love to get debated about politics. > But when you refuse to listem to reason (or in this case, you > refuse to > listen to anything), you find yourself paying for your actions. > > At Apache, you can have your cake and eat it too, but you > can't smear it > on someone's face (hypothetically speaking) and get away with it. Agreed, all I have done is look up TheServerSide.com and chase up some of the mailing/web lists. It is a lot of nonsense and hyperbole now. The information, real one, has been lost in the ether. > > Vic: > I respect your support for Struts and this community, but > dude.....you've > got to "chill out". > That goes for everyone. > > > > > I am definitely ashamed now. Talk about taking the > > lollipop (for my USA friends, the Candy) out of the babies# > > mouth. It's definitely a bridge too far. End of the world > > is neigh impossible to contemplate. After too much mastication > > that tooth is broken on out ... > > Craig is probably THE most tolerant person I've seen on this (or any) > mailing list. I'm sure he doesn't like having to do these kinds of > things, but I will support him nonetheless. > I assume you're right, because I have never met Craig in person. To me it looks like Vic is horrendous fast typer, some kind of cant-really-express-himself-appropriately guy. He appears intelligent, and knowledgeable, but over passionate. Yep I agree you need passion [the hard red and black stuff from the sunny country of Spain] to make it in any profession. You've got to believe first to be successful. He sounds like he is fighter for open source, but his communication leaves a lot to be desired. I read he was assumed of Apache Struts as "he was ashamed of using it now that these dreadful allegations, as yet unproven [Mr Anderson/Neo] have come out.". I think this slightly different from just "I am ashamed of Struts". However, I cant second guess to claim to know the intimate mind of Vik, but I dont know maybe the punishment is slightly harsh. It is amazing the pyschology of the "red mist" and a person who sits a computer with just keyboard and VDU. You wouldn't believe it, but it is apparently true ;-) Have a very calm evening. > > > > > Need I go on. > > > > --////-- > > -- > James Mitchell > Software Developer / Struts Evangelist > http://www.struts-atlanta.org > -- Peter Pilgrim, Struts/J2EE Consultant, RBoS FM, Risk IT Tel: +44 (0)207-375-4923 *********************************************************************************** This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information, if you are not the named addressee, you are not authorised to retain, read, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. The Royal Bank of Scotland plc is registered in Scotland No 90312 Registered Office: 36 St Andrew Square, Edinburgh EH2 2YB Regulated by the Financial Services Authority Visit our website at http://www.rbs.co.uk/CBFM/ *********************************************************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
