hi i think it depends on the type of application - if it is similar information then you could have a 10*5 array (some form of corporate time sheet maybe) - to help the user submit the information faster. rather than having 5 * 10 forms with the inevitable network delays that would give the user dialing up from home
your essentially moving from a form filing metaphor to a spreadsheet metaphor idea. martin -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 February 2002 15:32 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: speed of struts Good point. Under no circumstances whatsoever should the user be expected to do data entry for 50 items on a single web page unless they items all happen to be simple checkboxes. This is a known principal in user-experience architecture and Web site usability. If you need some lab data or something that backs this up, I can probably find something if I dig around. Data entry is a cumbersome process. Users must be incented through the process by parsing the process itself into manageable chunks and giving users motivation throughout. Consider a "wizard"-based data entry metaphor to correct this issue. Also, make sure that you give appropriate feedback to the user after each wizard step. Consider also adding a motivator and possibly even a "step-map" that shows location in the overall data entry process. If you really want to be aggresive, consider also allowing automatic save of the current state so that the user can always pick up where they left off on new sessions. - Cody "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/06/2002 07:14:57 AM Please respond to Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: speed of struts 50 fields in a form??? Me thinks the bug is in the design. Cheers! Mark -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 6:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: speed of struts I had a form with lots of custom tags. When run under the Sun 1.3 JDK it was slow as molasses. Sun 1.2 JDK or IBM 1.3 was instantaneous. A few mailing list posts pointed me to a bug in Sun's 1.3 having to do with nested try/catch blocks in the compiled JSP. Try your page under Sun 1.2 or the IBM JDK and see if it makes a difference. Lee -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Cheng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:50 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: speed of struts My form does not have a lot of tag processing (acutally none) The time it takes to load the page is proportional to the number of instances of form objects appeared on the JSP. For instance, outputting a radio set is A LOT slower than outputting a drop down list since you just have to pass a collection to the "iterate", but you have to actually put all the <html:radio/> options on the JSP. <html:select property="factors[4].rating"> <html:options collection="ratings" property="value" labelProperty="label"/> </html:select> <html:radio ...../>Option A <html:radio ...../>Option A <html:radio ...../>Option A <html:radio ...../>Option A -----Original Message----- From: Pete Carapetyan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:10 PM Posted To: Struts Conversation: speed of struts Subject: Re: speed of struts I have had the same problem on one very large form with lots of back end tag processing. Would be interested to know if anyone had performed any profiling on similar situations to identify where the bottlenecks were. Struts wrote: > I found out that if I include a lot of html form fields in a form (over 50). The jsp pages seems to be awfully slow to load (almost 10 seconds). I made it a little bit faster when I converted all radio button sets to drop down list, still it is very slow. 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