ROTFLMAO!

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Wes Bramhall
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Sent: 2/22/02 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net

But it's Friday now, so SSS is allowed, right?

(SSS = Small Scale Spamming)

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:45 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net


I thought we had abandoned this thread in favor of Struts related
questions
=)

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net


> I'm staying out of this discussion, but to answer your question --
>
> IMNSHO = In My Not So Humble Opinion
>
> --David
>
> On Friday 22 February 2002 01:03 pm, you wrote:
> > IMNSHO?  What the hell is that?  Man, the colloquial shortcuts are
getting
> > hairy these days.... :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Edward Q. Bridges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:15 AM
> > To: dIon Gillard; Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
> >
> >
> > "location independence" means independent of location, that is all.
> >
> > if you're implementing two interfaces to do (more or less) the exact
same
> > thing, and one is called "local" and one is called "remote" that is
> > absolutely *not*, by any stretch of the imagination,  "location
> > independent". _end of story_.
> >
> > with EJBs the method call does not "appear" to be remote, because it
is
> > *explicitly* remote.  the method is in a "RemoteInterface" and
throws a
> > "RemoteException" for crying out loud!
> >
> > furthermore, it's not about box1 vs box12.  to be more precise, it's
about
> > vm1 vs. vm12.  and, if you are writing a client, your client has
business
> > logic to take care of.  it's the servers responsibility to determine
> > whether it should call a method at vm1 or at vm12.
> >
> > IMNSHO, this is the achilles heel of EJB.
> >
> > --e--
> >
> > On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:24:22 +1100, dIon Gillard wrote:
> > >The method call can take place anywhere, but always appears to be
> > >remote. That could be many remote machines though. Location
independence
> > >is not about local vs remote, it's more about box1 vs box12.
>
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