I think the list needs good cop/bad cop style. lots of diff. people ask lots of
diff. levels of question & we need lots of diff. people to answer them.
Certainly people that aren't prepared to spend the time learning themselves
need to be put off a litle (but only a little).
It's pretty hard work learning struts. And the error handling isn't always the
best.

--- "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do not "vent anger" at newbies though I may be stern at times, and I, too,
> remember what it is like learning something new...because I do it everyday.
> I appreciate your generosity but I go by the old adage, "Give a man a fish
> and he'll not be hungry today; teach him to fish and he'll never be hungry."
> Sometimes your generosity works to the detriment of those you wish to help.
> And, as I said, it encourages more laziness on a list that is already way
> too busy handling inane queries.
> 
> No flame war - have a beer!
> 
> Cheers!
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emaho, Ghoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:19 AM
> 
> Mark
> 
> While I understand your frustration, I dont share it !
> 
> I was happy to help. 
> 
> You seem to vent a lot of frustration at newbie users. So they havent read
> all the docs - so what ! I remember what its like to be a beginner and come
> up against people with your attitude. Chill out and stop giving them such a
> hard time. You can still 'point them at the docs' in a friendly manner. 
> 
> You act as though this list is your personal property sometimes ! Newbies
> are welcome, and if they need reminding 100 times about the doc then fine.
> Bear in mind that for a newcomer, the documentation can be confusing and
> misleading. While everyone who has contributed has done a good job, it can
> be daunting for a complete newcomer. I dont think this is the place for you
> to vent your anger at them.
> 
> And I hope you can see the humour in my response :) I know it can be
> frustrating seeing the same q's again and again, but you dont HAVE to
> respond every time someone asks a dumb question, do you ? 
> 
> I'm not looking for a flame war, but sometimes you are just too rude. Take
> it somewhere else - off this list !
> 
> Hope you take this in the spirit it is intended
> 
> Take care
> 
> Ghoot
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 06 March 2002 12:13
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: Newbie Struts and Jbuilder6
> > 
> > 
> > You going to spoon-feed him, too?  This integration is 
> > clearly explained in
> > the documentation; the guy didn't even bother to look.  By 
> > answering such
> > lame questions you encourage more lame questions.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Emaho, Ghoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:09 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: Newbie Struts and Jbuilder6
> > 
> > 
> > Goto 'Tools | Configure Libraries' menu, add new entry, and 
> > select your
> > Struts.jar.
> > 
> > Then goto 'Project | Project Properties' menu select the 'required
> > libraries' tab, select add and then choose your newly added struts.
> > 
> > This then enables struts within your project.
> > 
> > Hope this helps
> > 
> > Ghoot
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sam Lai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 06 March 2002 00:07
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: Newbie Struts and Jbuilder6
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Can anyone show me how to integrate struts in Jbuilder6?
> > > 
> > > thanks,
> > > SAM
> > > 
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