Thanks!

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From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:05 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility


I believe it is in the nightly build.  It is also included in the 1.1
material.  There is an example/test with the software, but it is pretty
basic.  I found it to be stable, but a bit rudimentary.  It is something to
build on though.

bob

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From: "Phase Web and Multimedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility


> Thanks I'm going to look a bit harder into the workflow. Is it in the
> nightly build? and is it stable enough to start some experimental
> development on? Or do you think it will have some drastic changes? Any
good
> examples of it's usage?
>
> Sorry for all of the questions. But, I find this very appealing :-)
>
> Brandon Goodin
> Phase Web and Multimedia
> P (406) 862-2245
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:21 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility
>
>
> No, just working with it as a user.
>
> bob
>
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> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:59 PM
> Subject: RE: Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility
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>
> > Bob,
> >
> > Are you involved in the development of the workflow proposal?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:50 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility
> >
> >
> > I have looked at the Workflow stuff and will probably use it.  It will
> work
> > great for the problem mentioned here.
> >
> > However, I will be making some changes/extensions to it to make it
easier
> to
> > use.  It is a little too low level "out-of-the-box."  Extending it has
> been
> > easy since all of the basics are there.  The base design looks great - a
> > good start - but needs to be flushed out.
> >
> > bob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phase Web and Multimedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:21 PM
> > Subject: RE: Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility
> >
> >
> > > Peter do you know anything about the workflow proposal and if it
> addresses
> > > this issue. I don't want to carry on about this if something standard
is
> > in
> > > the works. Also, let's move this discussion over the the developer
> group.
> > I
> > > was a bad boy and started a discussion on the dev and the user. Bad
> > posting
> > > edicate :-).
> > >
> > > Brandon Goodin
> > > Phase Web and Multimedia
> > > P (406) 862-2245
> > > F (406) 862-0354
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.phase.ws
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Pilgrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:06 AM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I got the XML completely wrong, haven't I
> > >
> > > <struts-config
> > > xmlns:struts="http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/struts-config.dtd";
> > >            xmlns  xmls:acme="http://www.acme.com/acton-processor"; >
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > >     <struts:extensions>
> > >       <!-- within the struts extension body tag we can handle
> > additions -->
> > >       <acme:processor>
> > >             <acme:process-group name="check-login-and-authorize">
> > >                   <acme:process-action name="com.mydomain.LoginCheck">
> > >                   <acme:process-action
> name="com.mydomain.UserAuthorize">
> > >             <acme:/process-group>
> > >       <acme:/processor>
> > >     <struts:extensions>
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > </struts-config>
> > >
> > > Extension are recognised inside a <struts:extension> tag.
> > >
> > > In this way nobody is forced to use the <acme:processor> tags.
> > > Developer add other extension or replace the existing one with
> > > better extensions, or delete a deprecated extension.
> > >
> > > All extension are then optionally and downloadable and plug-in able.
> > >
> > > Unless my understanding my of XML and namespaces is completely wrong
> > > this should in theory work in principle?
> > >
> > > --
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> > > From:  Peter Pilgrim/DMGIT/DMG UK/DeuBa@DMG UK on 26/04/2002 14:27 CET
> > >
> > > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
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> > > Subject:    Re: Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So why do not subclass Action and make another abstract
> > >  AcmeSecureAction of your self that does the login check and
> > > the authorise.
> > >
> > > There is real danger that your other action may accidentally
> > > miss the security check, if say a newbie developer forgets
> > > add the process-group tags.
> > >
> > > If you want to add this to the struts-config XML then the
> > > Struts Digester code needs changing. I would suggest looking at
> > > ways that the digester code could be expanded with namespaces
> > >
> > > <xmlns  xmls:acme="http://www.acme.com/aciton-processor";
> > >
> > > <acme:processor>
> > >      <acme:process-group name="check-login-and-authorize">
> > >           <acme:process-action name="com.mydomain.LoginCheck">
> > >           <acme:process-action name="com.mydomain.UserAuthorize">
> > >      <acme:/process-group>
> > > <acme:/processor>
> > >
> > > Some sort of factory interface I guess. and additionally
> > > ActionServlet init parameters
> > >
> > > digesterExtension=com.acme.struts.digester.ActionProcessor
> > >
> > > --
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> > > From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 26/04/2002 07:46 AST
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> > > Subject:    Re: Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So for example, if I wanted to ensure a user was logged in, then check
> > > their authorizatoin for a particular URI, could I do something like:
> > >
> > > <processor>
> > >      <process-group name="check-login-and-authorize">
> > >           <process-action name="com.mydomain.LoginCheck">
> > >           <process-action name="com.mydomain.UserAuthorize">
> > >      </process-group>
> > > </processor>
> > >
> > > Then I could reuse this logic without having to embed it in each
action
> > > class.
> > >
> > > Is this what you're proposing? Do I understand correctly?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Phase Web and Multimedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/25/2002 05:36:57 PM
> > >
> > > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
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> > > To:   "Struts User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > cc:
> > > Subject:  Struts Improvement Proposal: Logic Extensibility
> > >
> > >
> > > Okay here is the idea I proposed earlier ("Struts (MVC)
Shortcomings?")
> in
> > > more solid thought.
> > >
> > > My hope in this is to provide an non-hard-coding mechanism to take
> > > advantage
> > > of reusable logic without having to forward around to a bunch of
Action
> > > classes (which doesn't work anyways).
> > >
> > > Here is my proposal:
> > >
> > > An action mapping could have an associated Process Config specified in
> the
> > > <set-property> of the action class. Something like:
> > > <set-property name="processor" value="processa" />
> > >
> > > An associated config file called processor.xml could be set up to
define
> > > process patterns that have names associated with the value attribute
of
> > the
> > > set-property. Something like:
> > > <processor>
> > >      <process-group name="processa">
> > >           <process-action name="com.mydomain.ProcessThisA">
> > >           <process-action name="com.mydomain.ProcessThisB">
> > >      </process-group>
> > >      <process-groupname="processb">
> > >           <process-action name="com.mydomain.ProcessThisB">
> > >           <process-action name="com.mydomain.ProcessThisC">
> > >      </process-group>
> > >      <process-groupname="processd">
> > >           <process-action name="com.mydomain.ProcessThisX">
> > >           <process-action name="com.mydomain.ProcessThisC">
> > >           <process-action name="com.mydomain.ProcessThisN">
> > >      </process-group>
> > > </processor>
> > >
> > > This config info could be placed into the Application Scope at the app
> > > startup using the plugin mechanism of Struts 1.1.
> > >
> > > When an Action is called it would look to see what "process group" it
> > needs
> > > to call and using reflection to perform the specified chain of
> processing
> > > in
> > > the order specified in the process-groupname config.
> > >
> > > A process class would conform to an interface and would have access to
> > > everything that the Action has access to. This way any errors or
scoped
> > > beans/Attributes that need to be set can be set from within the
process
> > > class. Also, the process class could access other logic beans for sql
> and
> > > such.
> > >
> > > Any unique coding that needs to happen can still be contained in an
> Action
> > > class. But for code that is reusable. This would be very nice.
> > >
> > > Brandon Goodin
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