A-ha!!! He admits it, finally...get the torches and pitchforks everyone! ;)
> -----Original Message----- > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 8:16 AM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [42] Real Programmers > > > Come to think of it, I've known many engineers (especially > EEs) who have > learned to program, but no programmer who has learned > engineering. Not > being a mathematician, engineer nor CPA, I've always relied > on the experts > to give me the algorithms to implement. > > Mark (Ph.D. in American history) > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 10:49 AM > > Computer Science at Tulane University was under Engineering. > When asked why > we were learning FORTRAN at all in our accelerated first semester > FORTRAN/Pascal class, the professor replied, "You are not an > engineer if you > do not know FORTRAN". > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Heh-heh. I agree with you, though I started life with a > Commie 64 and > > learned BASIC. My next machine was a Mac 512 and learned C > on it and the > > college's Unix system (and I always hated HyperCard). I > actually was > using > > REXX on a Sequoia 6000 and JCL on an IBM 370 before I ever > learned how to > > program a DOS/Windows system. And though I never learned > LISP, I did > dabble > > in Scheme for awhile. > > > > I disagree with your opinion of FORTRAN users, however. > The engineers > gave > > the Real Programmers the algorithms, who then coded the app. > > > > Nevertheless, this is a topic that evokes perennial interest on > > struts-users. > > > > > > Mark > > Cogito ergo spud > > (I think, therefore I yam.) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Hickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:54 AM > > > > Mark, > > > > Re: Struts List et al > > > > Apologies for the off list contact. I read the "So you want > to be a real > > programmer" note and I was ROTFL! I should explain that I > was writing IBM > > 370/Assembler when that era happened. I did not, however > opt for a TRS > 80... > > a Real Programmer owned an Osborn computer (CPM was the OS). > > > > I don't know what age you are (none of my business) but I > offer that LISP > > actually pre-dates FORTRAN and that FORTRAN was for > ENGINEERS not Real > > Programmers. Real Programmers wrote in Assembler and LISP with the > > occasional maverick (me) who wrote in Algol. > > > > I also can confirm that I never spoke in capitol letters... > LOL! I have, > > however, acquired this idiotic habit of using emoticons in > emails which, I > > presume, imparts some semblance of emotion to an otherwise > black and white > > email. Such is life. > > > > Adds: > > Real programmers don't use Prolog > > Real programmers do use SmallTalk > > Real programmers don't use Macs because they could > never find the > > correlation between > > Hypercard editors and the OS (aka - there was no > DOS window). > > > > Have a great weekend! > > > > Brian Hickey > > > > Codito ergo sum > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
