I am sure that you have all heard one time or another about how certain 
persistence frameworks "rock"...

Hibernate is a simple and flexible framework.
http://hibernate.sourceforge.net

Matt



Joe Barefoot wrote:

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>>From: Robert J. Sanford, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:14 PM
>>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>>Subject: RE: Persistence Framework Comparison?
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>>>>But, I cannot guarantee that the view I am reading from is 
>>>>updateable so I
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>>>How can you not guarantee this if you are creating the data 
>>>model?  I don't understand.
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>>1 - I cannot guarantee the database that I will be using. Customer
>>    requirements and all that other rot.
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>Gotcha.
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>>2 - On one of my projects I currently have a logical object that
>>    loads through a single view but requires an insert into multiple
>>    tables to instantiate the logical object and I cannot do an
>>    insert through the view.
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>Better hope the customer choice of DB supports views at all then. :)
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>>3 - I'm not the DBA. I'm not qualified to be a DBA on anything but
>>    simplistic projects and this is less than simplistic so I just
>>    go with what I'm given. And sometimes the views are not able to
>>    be updated.
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>I think I'd talk some trash to the DBA then.  What, do they expect you to solve 
>everything, given the model?  I do appreciate your dilemma though, my condolences.
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