> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:48 PM
> To:   Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject:      RE: [Tiles] Tiles vs. Custom Tag - anyone have a view?
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> 
> 
> "My preferences gears toward Tiles for flexibilities and re-usable View
> components
> Out weight the performance issue."
> 
> <outburst>
> Tiles Kick Ass!
> </outburst>
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Trieu, Danny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/07/2002 11:16:34 AM
> 
> Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
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> To:    'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject:    RE: [Tiles] Tiles vs. Custom Tag - anyone have a view?
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> 
> If Hue was to use Tiles' definition, then much more flexible.  My
> preference
> is
> To use Tiles in this case.  Of course, when performance become an issues
> then you
> Might want to consider other approach, and this could be using tags.  Or,
> use
> Fragmented-cache, I mean using cache tags to prevent Tiles' components
> from
> rendering
> Again.  My preferences gears toward Tiles for flexibilities and re-usable
> View components
> Out weight the performance issue.
> 
> Danny
> 
> Ps. Cedric, UR-Rock....
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:52 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Tiles] Tiles vs. Custom Tag - anyone have a view?
> 
> 
> How many milliseconds faster/slower is the tiles solution vs. the custom
> tag
> 
> solution?  When you use a custom tag, can you perceive a difference in
> page
> load time? Until you can answer those questions, stick with what you have.
> Programmers are notoriously bad at guessing where a performance problem is
> and you need real data to make a decision.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Hue Holleran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List \(E-mail\)"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [Tiles] Tiles vs. Custom Tag - anyone have a view?
> >Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:01:34 -0000
> >
> >We've been using tiles extensively in an app and it has been extremely
> >effective - as one might expect for including "tiles" of information on
> >a page and consolidating standard layout into templates - however I'm
> >concerned that we might be going too far in its use... and using it
> >where we might otherwise have used a custom tag:
> >
> >For a single img that is used extensively in an app that has
> >mouseover/out/down behaviour, e.g. (in HTML - lots of code left out
> >deliberately here):
> >
> >   <img src="/images/navigation/right.gif"
> >        onmouseover="javascript:setImg(this,'/images/right_hot.gif')"
> >
> onmousedown="javascript:setImg(this,'/images/right_hot_down.gif')"
> >        onmouseout="javascript:setImg(this,'/images/right.gif')">
> >
> >This can be much simplified to including a "tile" of just this control:
> >
> >   <tiles:insert template="/tiles-components/controls/imgactive.jsp">
> >     <tiles:put imgName="/images/right" />
> >   </tiles:insert>
> >
> >The alternative would be a custom tag, e.g:
> >
> >   <sshtml:imgactive imgName="/images/navigation/right" />
> >
> >Which is obviously much easier to include but so much less flexible -
> >requiring editing tag handler java code to edit html - and all of the
> >issues this entails - tiles allows us to edit the html in a nice easy
> >jsp. This is much more effective for complete chunks of html and has
> >saved huge amounts of time for large "composite controls" that we have
> >everywhere.
> >
> >I feel it is neater but am concerned we are introducing too much
> >processing for just producing the html for the control - does anyone
> >else have a view on this ... any comments appreciated (even "Stupid
> >Idea" if this is).
> >
> >(code for the template is included below).
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Hue.
> >
> >/tiles-components/controls/imgactive.jsp
> >----------------------------------------
> ><%@ taglib uri="/WEB-INF/struts-tiles.tld" prefix="tiles" %> <img
> >src="<tiles:getAsString name='imgName'/>.gif"
> >      onmouseover="javascript:setImg(this,'<tiles:getAsString
> >name='imgName'/>_hot.gif');"
> >      onmousedown="javascript:setImg(this,'<tiles:getAsString
> >name='imgName'/>_hot_down.gif')"
> >      onmouseout="javascript:setImg(this,'<tiles:getAsString
> >name='imgName'/>.gif')">
> >
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