Rick,

Sounds like you're not using the latest production release
which has lots of enhancements in many area that seemed to
frustrate you in previous releases.

| To deploy with it you have to develop your app and then it
| provides a way to deploy a war file out to the server. To me it seems
| so much more worthwhile to just learn a quick ant script that you
| could use with any IDE (or none for that matter).

JDeveloper9i supports Ant in our latest production 9.0.3 release
if you prefer the Ant-based approach.

You can also create new projects from existing WAR's in the 
new release to simplify what you tried in an earlier release.

| had a bunch of scriplets on pages which required him to import
| java.util stuff at the top of his JSP pages. Well somehow he didn't
| have those imports but running in the JDeveloper environment and
| JDeveloper didn't care - everything displayed fine in his JDev
| environment. (don't ask me how). 

This was an issue in the Oracle JSP implementation (not in 
JDeveloper9i, for the record) wherein they automatically were
importing java.io.* or java.util.* (I forget which one) when
the JSP spec did not mention that it should.

This issue is fixed in the latest Oracle JSP implementation
that is included with the latest production 9.0.3 release.

| Also try taking an existing web application that you have and try to
| get it set up in JDeveloper. It's a total mess and so non intuitive.

Perhaps in previous releases, but the latest production 9.0.3
release has new features to simply open existing WAR files. 
Non-messy, and very intuitive.

The latest production 9.0.3 release can be downloaded at:

 http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev

__________________________________________________________________
Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Java/XML Evangelist, Author
Simplify J2EE Development with the Oracle BC4J Framework
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
Building Oracle XML Apps, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp



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