Yes, the power of xml is Soap. And actually this is the main reason behind my question: web-services.
I have worked on xsp, like it and dislike it! As i understand from this discussion, cocoon and struts are not possible to integrate, or at least work together. Thanks, Rabih. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Oguz Kologlu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is actually a lot of work being done on cocoon. > > Cocoon in fact resembles struts in many ways - the developers will freely > admit they take the best ideas from each project to integrate into cocoon. > > Some of the features: > - schematron ( same as validators ) > - internationalisation support > - sub applications > - xmlforms ( similar to form beans ) ( w3c standard ) > etc, etc. > > There are also xsp's ( xml -> jsp ) but I have never used them. > > I think one of the shortfalls of cocoon is pipeline processing where you > cannot change the direction of a pipeline once processing has begun ( since > processing is based on sax events). We have worked around this with a > variety of custom actions but it would be a hard work in a small team where > you don't have much time for R&D (play time). > > Another issue is that it is very loosely coupled and you can easily end up > lost in a large project - especially for newbies. > > Having said that, you can get work done very quickly as well. > > It is worth evaluating - you can cut out a couple of layers of processing > using cocoon instead of struts/JSF/clxx. > > hope this helps > > Oz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rabih Yazbeck [mailto:rablists@y...] > Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2003 10:46 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Need Advise: use Struts/XSLT > > > What about Cocoon integration with Struts? Is it possible that cocoon > handle the presentation layer while Sturts focus on the controller? > > Even though Cocoon has released a version 2, but I think there is > anymore much work on Cocoon, am I right? > > Thanks, and yes I believe in the power of XML/XSLT.. World is moving > toward this approach, and I wish there is more support for it in Struts. > > - > Rabih > > -----Original Message----- > From: ROSSEL Olivier [mailto:olivier.rossel@a...] > Sent: 12 February 2003 10:29 > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Need Advise: use Struts/XSLT > > >> -----Message d'origine----- > >> De: Oguz Kologlu [mailto:ozkologlu@o...] > >> Date: mercredi 12 février 2003 11:15 > >> À: Struts Users Mailing List > >> Objet: RE: Need Advise: use Struts/XSLT > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> There is an article on theserverside.com that discusses this issue > at: > >> > > > >To oversimplify - it says you should develop JSP "Documents" ( well > formed > >xml ) and use xslt for presentation/rendering/i18n etc. > > XSLT is very powerful if you can manage things in your XSLT such as > document(url) > where the URL is also a dynamic XML document. > Aggregation is also a very useful feature. > > To me the (too basic) process of 1 XML-> 1 XSLT->whatever is not that > useful. > For example it is interesting to have 2 XMLs-> 1 XSLT-> 1 XSLT- >whatever > or > to > have XML->XSLT->whatever > ^ > | > XSLT > ^ > | > XML > > I admit that it is quite an advanced usage of XML pipelines. > Cocoon handles that very nicely. > > PS: for those who don't understand the power of the last pipeline > discribed, > think about such a pipeline: > XML->XSLT->whatever > ^ > | > XSLT > ^ > | > XHTML > > Struts ceates the XML. > Dreamweaver creates the XHTML (with custom tags to be XSLT- processed). > Did you say "total separation of concerns"? > > This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain > privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, > distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have > received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. > Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be > accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and > security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of > Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
