You need to understand what Struts does for you. The Action classes are *not* for business logic, they are part of the controller and define page flow and call business logic methods. If you need special authentication, logging, etc. for particular views then a filter is your best choice.

Filters aren't a parallel system to Struts because they logically sit in front of Struts handling requests before Struts gets them.

David



From: Thorin Linderholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: design question about action chaining
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:08:09 -0800

Filters are one of the design/imp choices I've considered under the
'parallel system' heading, though I hadn't thought of trying to use the
web.xml for this.  I'd have to look into these more.

I take it you recomending that a second, parallel system of specifying
functionality on a per-page or per-page-set basis is the way to go?

What reasons would you have for this design choice, as opposed to extending
struts to contain this functionality?

Have you (or others,) implemented something similar to this?

(This port is going to be a large chunk of time and I'm just trying to find
out if other people have already thought through and implemented this type
of functionality before I just pick something, run with it, and end up with
some kind of maintenance or design nightmare :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: design question about action chaining


I think Filters would be a good choice for your needs. You can define a
filter for each piece of logic and then configure them in web.xml for groups


of pages.  You'll need to put related pages in the same path scheme so that
you can map a filter to the group instead of each page.

David



>From: Thorin Linderholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: design question about action chaining
>Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:30:39 -0800
>
>
>I have been tasked with porting an existing web application with it's own
>proprietary controller architecture to using Struts.
>
>As they are both web controller architectures, they have many similarities,
>but I'm running into one difference in overall architecture that I'm having
>difficulty resolving.
>
>This difficulty is most closely related to the 'action chaining' posts I've
>been able to find in the mailing list archives.
>
>Specifically, I have over 400 pages mapped to various actions (our
>controller calls them that, and they're roughly synonymous with struts
>actions.) However, our controller allows specifying a list of actions to
>execute on a per-page, and per-page-set basis. In other words, we can
>assign an action like 'Ensure Session initialization has been
>completed/Initialize session' to every page in the site with a single
>mapping (assuming you've already listed all the pages.) Or you can assign
>it to 90% of your pages if you happen to desire. We have approximatly ten
>actions that happen on between 60-99% of the pages on our site. If we were
>to directly translate this to the struts mapping system we would end up
>having to re-specify those ten actions on most of those 400+ pages,
>creating
>long action chains for each page (a whole lot of duplication: hard to
>maintain, easy to get wrong, etc.)
>
>So, conceptually, I want to be able to apply a few different bits of logic
>to whole sets of pages. Some of those 'bits of logic' (actions if you
>will,) interrupt the process and forward to a different page (page access
>rules for instance.)
>
>There are several possible solutions that I've come up with, but so far all
>of them involve either hacks, extending struts (which happens to partialy
>eliminate the reason I'm being required to move to Struts, and so isn't
>very
>favored by my supperiors,) some complicated java inheritance hierarchy
>where
>I inherit non-related functionality in those ten actions into a set of
>compound actions, each inheriting in the set of functionality we want
>(lame,) or I could implement a 'view preprocessor' of some kind that
>parallels the struts-config and defines processing that I need to do for
>each view page (which requires me to have two completely redundant sets of
>page mappings, and apears to me to obsolete the need for Struts in the
>first
>place (if we were to ignore it's tag libraries and other helper classes
>which we also already have proprietary equivalents to.)
>
>I'd love to hear from anyone about other possibilities, or (even better,)
>pointers to somebody/some package already solving this problem.
>
>Another way to look at the whole thing: How have other people solved the
>problem of being able to apply a set of page access rules to arbitrary sets
>of pages without having to create a system parallel to struts that
>re-defines every page in the application? Or do people consider a parallel
>system that respecifies every page as the proper design?
>
>Thorin
>
>
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