Then, if they're so alike as you claim, use the JSTL conditional tags. Or are you just playing devil's advocate by using scriptlets anyway because you 'feel' they're ok if used in a certain manner?
You either do stuff a certain way, or you don't do it at all. Breaking a certain paradigm because it suits you or you think it's ok in certain cases should only be warranted under dire circumstances, and should be an exception rather than a rule. You seem to make it a rule. And that, my friend, is wrong. Try harder next time. :) Your JSP will look nicer w/out scriptlets. Put java code where it belongs - in Java files, not in JSPs. Martin Thursday, July 24, 2003, 12:33:26 AM, you wrote: RB> In the example below, there isn't much difference between the scriplet and RB> the tag. Both of them are conditionals checking if index is an even number. RB> That fact that one is a scriptlet and the other is a tag is only a matter of RB> 'syntax' to me. Logically, the developer is doing the same thing there. We RB> can pretend like we are not scripting there since we are using the tag, but RB> I can pretend I'm dating Angelina Jolie when I'm really....not. That said, RB> I think there is nothing wrong with having display logic (in tag or RB> scriptlet form) in the JSPs. Lets say your requirements are to display a RB> list of entries with every odd entry in blue and even in red. I cannot RB> think of a better way to do this than with a conditional in the view. RB> ranko RB> -----Original Message----- RB> From: Martin Naskovski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RB> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:12 AM RB> To: Ranko Bijelonic RB> Cc: Struts Users Mailing List RB> Subject: Re[2]: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these RB> tags libs? RB> JSTL+the struts tags and/or struts-el, for me has completely RB> eliminated the need to use scriptlets. Using scriptlets invites the RB> use of business logic in your view (at least, for less experienced RB> programmers). This, IMHO, is a major violation of the MVC paradigm, RB> and programmers doing that should be shot. RB> This is why you should stay clear of scriptlets, no if's and's or RB> but's. If you design your code correctly, you should be able to live RB> w/out scriptlets. RB> Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 5:37:26 PM, you wrote: RB>> yeah, i don't use tags :). But, it looks like one does not have to RB> worry RB>> about matching curly braces when using the tag code :). Seriously RB> though, RB>> most of the scriplets in my JSPs are minimal, and are just as easy (to RB> me as RB>> a Java programer though) as the tags. HTML coders would probably RB> prefer to RB>> learn this tag language rather than the subset of the Java language they RB>> would need. I'm sure there are other tag uses where the usage is more RB>> tag-like. RB>> While we are at it, can I bag on a particual type of an EJB or would RB> that be RB>> too much for now? :). RB>> ranko RB>> -----Original Message----- RB>> From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RB>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:09 AM RB>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RB>> Subject: Ranko like question: What is the sense of some of these tags RB>> libs? RB>> As Ranko asked, about the redundancy of Struts I would like to know that RB> the RB>> heck is the deal with SOME of these tag libs out there? RB>> I mean, look at this: <c:if test="${index%2==0}"> and look at this: <% RB>> if(index.intValue()%2==0){ %> RB>> I like NOT to use Java scriptlets in my JSPs and I am pretty decent at RB>> achieving that but RB>> if my only resolve of using a "tag" is to have it look like CODE and not RB> a RB>> true tag why RB>> have people (code maintainers and the original coder in the first place) RB>> learn a new "language" RB>> and just use a scriptlet? RB>> Seeing $var like tag code that makes me think this is some sort of RB>> conspiracy so that all the RB>> UNIX admins, with their UNIX scripts, who needed new jobs, since WinTel RB> is RB>> taking over, starting RB>> writing "tag" libraries. RB>> I mean really, what is the deal with these so called "tags" that aren't RB>> tags? RB>> JavaScript was cool when it came out (and wasn't developed by Sun) RB> because RB>> if you knew Java then RB>> you were about 90% there to being a great JavaScripter. RB>> So I say Ranko, are you just as bewildered at this as I am? RB>> :-) RB>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- RB>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RB>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RB> -- RB> --------------------------------------------------------------------- RB> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RB> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RB> --------------------------------------------------------------------- RB> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RB> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
