At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote:
Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS,
I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications
using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee.
From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400
There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ?
From: "Brian Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400
The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients "My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do?"
Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server?
In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products.
BAL
From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400
what is the point of verified application ?
Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle
from java.sun.com
From: "Brian Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400
They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process.
It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product.
BAL
From: "Bill Chmura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400
Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the "free trial version" :)
> -----Original Message----- > From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: J2EE certified > > > I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the > thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products > are j2ee verified ( > http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). > > I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. > Never heard of a web application getting certified which > was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are > lurking in here. :) > > Thanks for the responses. > > Amin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: J2EE certified > > Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) > > I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 > grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation > for my j2ee app. > > > > > On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: > > http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM > >>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >>Subject: OT: J2EE certified > >> > >> > >>Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for > >>a J2EE web > >>app? > >> > >>Struts question, > >> > >>I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's > the Servlet > >>action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? > >>--------------------------- error > ------------------------------------ > >>javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error > processing resource > >>path > >> at > org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A > >>ctionServl > >>et.java:1035) > >> at > >>org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A > >>ctionServl > >>et.java:1014) > >> at > >>org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action > >>Servlet.ja > >>va:955) > >> at > >>org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. > java:470) > >> at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) > >>------------------------- snip > ------------------------------------- > >> > >>Amin > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM > >>To: Struts Users Mailing List > >>Subject: Re: J2EE certified > >> > >>J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. > >>JMS, EJB, XML > >>processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. > just to begin > >>with. > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Mohd Amin Mohd Din" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM > >>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >> > >> > >> > >>>Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean > >> > >>my app using > >> > >>>Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE > >> > >>certified web > >> > >>>app. > >>> > >>>Plus, not all question on the list are about struts > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Shane Mingins > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM > >>>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>> > >>>So where's the Struts question? > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. > >>>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>> > >>>I meant getting a web application certified > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM > >>>To: Struts Users Mailing List > >>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Amin > >>> > >>> You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component > >> > >>Developer), > >> > >>>its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have > >>>JCP to take this exam. > >>> > >>>Raghu > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: J2EE certified > >>> > >>> > >>>A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE > >> > >>certified. I > >> > >>>could only find getting an application server certified not the > >>>application. 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