Eclipse contributors, committers, etc. don't need to be IBM employees, but they need to be active in the project and recognized by existing contributors, committers, etc. Its structured similarly to the Mozilla project, which revolved around a core group of Netscape (now former) employees.

Most importantly, the Eclipse plug-in framework is absolutely available for anyone or anygroup to take and do with as they please. The plug-in architecture itself is almost entirely a community effort. Obviously, the 500 odd plugins that make up WSAD are developed by IBM, but there are a great number of various plugins out there for Eclipse, free and commercial.

As for "if IBM goes bankrupt" ... keep holding your breath, friend :) Having a corporate sponsor for an Open Source project is a *good* thing ... purely open, free, and informal open source projects are great, but have a difficult time with systems as complex as an IDE, a browser, a database, etc. Even Apache has a formal group that guides what direction development takes, to some degree, and provides organization and structure (in this case, a non-profit, I think).

Brice

Frans Thamura, Intercitra wrote:

I think Eclipse is own by commynity, but with IBM money, they put all the contributor, commiter, and the decision for next version by their empolyee.

This is not a product from home ground dude. :)

So, in my head, Eclipse is still IBM. like it or not. Event if IBM go bancrupt, Eclipse still there. but when?

What do you think?

Brice Ruth wrote:

Eclipse is an Open Source Project, bottom line. WSAD is built on the Eclipse framework ... you see, Eclipse isn't just an IDE, that's just one particular incarnation of Eclipse plugins. Eclipse is simply an extensible plugin framework that can be used for any type of application, by anyone out there ... WSAD is such an application. The fact that it resembles many of the IDE functions that Eclipse has, is purely coincidental, at this point :)

Ramadoss Chinnakuzhandai wrote:

meaning eclipse own by===>OTI===>own by IBM======> Eclipse own by IBM?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ingo Adler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Who owns Eclipse


Eclipse developement is driven by OTI (www.oti.com), an IBM company. They developed Visual Age before.
IBM (and maybe some of the OTI employees) builds WebSphere Studio Application Developer on top of it and sells it.


Ingo

Ramadoss Chinnakuzhandai wrote:



Hi,
     Is Eclipse owned by IBM or bought by IBM?

Any idea?

-Ram







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