On our intranet application, we make a round trip to the server everytime the user 
enters a piece of data. This sounds like it would be dreadfully slow, but in practise 
it isn't. Internally, we have bandwidth to spare and we keep our pages fairly 
streamlined (need to switch to CSS, so that we can shrink them even more, but they're 
not bad even now). So our users get their dynamic feedback and we threw out JavaScript 
... a win-win situation if I ever heardof one. :-)

Simon

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Edgar P Dollin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:26 AM
>To: 'Jesse Alexander (KAID 11)'; 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>Subject: RE: Unit Test in struts
>
>
>Could you share with us how you worked around some of my issues, i.e.
>
>The user is entering items.  User needs dynamic feedback as to 
>to how much
>is entered 
>so correctness of data entry can be determined.
>
>Thanks
>
>Edgar
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jesse Alexander (KAID 11)
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 3:37 AM
>> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>> Subject: RE: Unit Test in struts
>> 
>> 
>> not true.
>> I've seen web-apps that use strictly html (not a line of JavaScript)
>> and look very dynamic and responsive (one app reports its users are
>> more happy with the html-version than with the smalltalk fat client
>> solution (with the same functionality)). Unfortunately these apps are
>> company internal intranet-webapps, that cannot be shown to 
>> the outside.
>> 
>> It is basically a way of thinking.
>> 
>> Remember what we usually hate about stuff like M$ Office?
>> -> The UI is overkill. Way too much unnecessary stuff. 
>> Give the users a FAST but very simple and clean (forget about 
>> animated gif's,...) UI, make it intuitively (NO learning curve)
>> and they will love it.
>> 
>> hth 
>> Alexander
>> 
>> PS: These apps are easier to be tested... (to bring us back on the
>> original trail)
>> 
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