On 6 Feb 2004, at 11:06, Adam Hardy wrote:
Since it's Friday, I thought I'd ask you Aussie java guys what the deal is on this strange points system Australia has for its working visas.
I thought for a few years I'd never meet the target, whenever I thought about moving to down under. I'm too old, too British, not enough relatives living there etc etc.
But then I found the Australian visa site and answered several pages of questions, and then the last one was "Do you have any experience with Java Security?" - so I clicked the box and with that, it seems I'm eligible for a visa.
I tried it all again, and without that Java Security experience, your lovely government wouldn't want me.
What's that all about?
Adam
On 02/05/2004 03:09 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Okay, OT is okay as far as it goes but lets not turn the struts mailing list into a forum for the great Sydney/Melbourne rivalry. Please.
Anyway, everyone knows that Canberra is best. :-)
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hi!
thanks for the suggestion. that is pretty much what i had decided to do ie write something and try and market it.
however i'd beg to differ on the weather.
i dont think cold, grey, wet, clammy, uncertain weather qualifies as good weather esp compared to the sunny predictable weather down here.
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The best way to demonstrate you skills is to look for an idea and write
something and sell it, you end up as your own boss and you gain the
experience.
You seem to think the no-experience vs employeers want experience issuenew, but it was the same 15 years or so ago when I started out. You canof
sit around and frett about it or just get on with it yourself.
If you want to work for someone else, that is fine, you just need to
work hard and you'll do fine, there are so many lazy programmers out in
the market these days that there is a shortage of dedicated professional
graduates.
Thirdly, move down to Melbourne, the weather is nicer down here:)
Chris
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, ajay wrote:
when: 2004 where: sydney citizenship: australian
the problem though is that most people here thesedays want some leveltowardsexperience before they are willing to hire you, the trend is a lotandcontract/temp jobs.
the problem ofcourse is where to get that elusive experience, and uni
project
experience doesn't count for anything. so you have this cycle where you are looking to get some experiencemosthighest
companies want only experienced personnel. and when it comes to tax i believe australia has one of the world'staxhe
rate, and sydney is way too pricey.
but what i would like to know is whats the scenario outside, like inttownstates, singapore, UK etc. is there a good demand for qualified but inexperienced IT graduates. would a move abroad be good?
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Jiin-Her hits the nail on the head I certainly wouldn't want to make 50K while living in Boston or New
York
City... Here's the cost of living for Herndon VA
http://realestate.yahoo.com/re/neighborhood/search.html? sa=&c=Herndon&s=VA&z=
Cost of living (taxes, expenses, insurance, etc...) can change fromonto town even. As the add says you need to move to Herndon VA to livetothat 50K. ;)
-R^3
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Depends on when, where, and what is your citizenship. It can be up$---------------------------------------------------------------------
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