On 07/30/2009 10:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Simon Schampijer<si...@schampijer.de> wrote: >> On 07/29/2009 07:03 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: >>> Hi Simon, >>> >>> On 29 Jul 2009, at 08:55, Simon Schampijer wrote: >>> >>>>> FWIW: Picking the top level tool set is going to be a real tough call in >>>>> a number of cases as we loose toolbar space for each extra tab, plus the >>>>> activity icon on far left (essential for Activity recognition), plus the >>>>> stop icon on far right (essential, no questions, no doubts). The >>>>> features that actually fit in the remaining space may seem quite an >>>>> arbitrary hotchpotch. >>>> Gary, I am not sure I get your arguments right :/ Can you elaborate? >>>> What I conclude of all the answers, I think that space in the primary >>>> toolbar is an issue. So we need to decide what to put there. Does >>>> activity icon and stop icon sounds good to you as well? >>> Sorry if that wasn't clear. Activity icon and stop icon are essential. >>> The Activity icon is going to be critical for identifying what activity >>> you are in at a glance, especially if the actual title name is hidden >>> away in a sub toolbar. A downside if we loose the title in the primary >>> toolbar is reinforcement of knowing what activity you are in (say you >>> are copy/pasting between two similar Write documents)... >> Ok, thanks for the explanation. The differentiation of the running instance >> of two activities of the same type is a good point. But, does this happen >> often? I guess many kids will run one activity of each type at a time, and >> remember performance constraints ;p And one can use the frame to distinguish >> the activities. > > I often copy items from one open instance of an activity to another... > e.g., grabbing a passage from a Write doc to paste into another. > Keeping both open, as oppose to opening and closing is advantageous (I > can alt-tab or use the frame to switch back and forth). But there is > not an issue with names in those cases.
Ok, makes sense. Personally I would like to have the axtivity instance title entry available in the primary toolbar - as I think it is a quite important action. But I see as well the space issue... :/ >> Personally, I see more the issue of naming an activity, since as said in >> another post I am not really convinced about the naming alert. >> >> One little thing I am a bit worried about, is that we miss labels for the >> sub-toolbars. I hope the icons are meaningful enough for the users - but >> then labels can be misleading as well, and many of our users can't possibly >> read. > > Are there not tool tips? Not like 'edit', 'view' or something similar. The name of the tab in the old design is gone. Regards, Simon _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel