On 07/30/2009 10:15 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > > > On 7/30/09 4:13 PM, "Simon Schampijer"<si...@schampijer.de> wrote: > >> On 07/30/2009 10:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Simon Schampijer<si...@schampijer.de> >>> wrote: >>>> On 07/29/2009 07:03 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: >>>>> Hi Simon, >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2009, at 08:55, Simon Schampijer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> FWIW: Picking the top level tool set is going to be a real tough call in >>>>>>> a number of cases as we loose toolbar space for each extra tab, plus the >>>>>>> activity icon on far left (essential for Activity recognition), plus the >>>>>>> stop icon on far right (essential, no questions, no doubts). The >>>>>>> features that actually fit in the remaining space may seem quite an >>>>>>> arbitrary hotchpotch. >>>>>> Gary, I am not sure I get your arguments right :/ Can you elaborate? >>>>>> What I conclude of all the answers, I think that space in the primary >>>>>> toolbar is an issue. So we need to decide what to put there. Does >>>>>> activity icon and stop icon sounds good to you as well? >>>>> Sorry if that wasn't clear. Activity icon and stop icon are essential. >>>>> The Activity icon is going to be critical for identifying what activity >>>>> you are in at a glance, especially if the actual title name is hidden >>>>> away in a sub toolbar. A downside if we loose the title in the primary >>>>> toolbar is reinforcement of knowing what activity you are in (say you >>>>> are copy/pasting between two similar Write documents)... >>>> Ok, thanks for the explanation. The differentiation of the running instance >>>> of two activities of the same type is a good point. But, does this happen >>>> often? I guess many kids will run one activity of each type at a time, and >>>> remember performance constraints ;p And one can use the frame to >>>> distinguish >>>> the activities. >>> I often copy items from one open instance of an activity to another... >>> e.g., grabbing a passage from a Write doc to paste into another. >>> Keeping both open, as oppose to opening and closing is advantageous (I >>> can alt-tab or use the frame to switch back and forth). But there is >>> not an issue with names in those cases. >> Ok, makes sense. Personally I would like to have the axtivity instance >> title entry available in the primary toolbar - as I think it is a quite >> important action. But I see as well the space issue... :/ >> >>>> Personally, I see more the issue of naming an activity, since as said in >>>> another post I am not really convinced about the naming alert. >>>> >>>> One little thing I am a bit worried about, is that we miss labels for the >>>> sub-toolbars. I hope the icons are meaningful enough for the users - but >>>> then labels can be misleading as well, and many of our users can't possibly >>>> read. >>> Are there not tool tips? >> Not like 'edit', 'view' or something similar. The name of the tab in the >> old design is gone. > > Hi Simon--actually, I think we did have a concept for showing tooltips for > tabs. Will need to check with Eben--we are set to have a conversation about > this and several other issues tonight. > > Looking great so far... > > > Christian
Nice, how could I even have thought a second that this is not thought through, yet ;D Happy designing, Simon _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel