Dear z-i folks and sugar folks, Three members of the 0install.net community [1] met with several members of the Sugar community [2] yesterday to exchange knowledge and, in the case of the Sugar folks, to learn more about z-i and whether it might be a good fit for use in Sugar activity installation.
After the meeting, Thomas wrote up a great set of notes (mostly describing his answers to Ben's questions) here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2776 Please peruse this QnA if you'd like to know what was discussed and please follow up with someone who seems approachable if you develop new questions as a result of reading. Next, it seems that several of the z-i participants decided after our meeting to try out Sugar (on a variety of platforms) and to share their experiences in replies to the z-i-d thread I mentioned above. Therefore, for your convenience, I have collected a few of their notable remarks in the sequel of this email. Please read through them and respond if you feel so moved. Kind regards, Michael P.S. - Eben and Sebastian: you are both personally CC'ed since I saw several experience reports that looked like they would be of specific interest to each of you. P.P.S. - Ben and Rubén: you are CC'ed because you both mentioned to me after the meeting that you found it useful for solidifying your perspective on the relevance of technology like z-i to Sugar. Could you each please reply with a summary of what you learned? [1]: The z-i folks: Anders [afb], Rene [rsl], and Thomas [talex] [2]: The sugar folks: Bernie [bernie], Sebastian [sdziallas], Ben [bemasc], Aleksey [alsroot], Rubén [quidam] and myself Now for the experience reports: Anders F Björklund wrote: > I tried to use the Ubuntu 9.04 version of Sugar, but it seems like > it has some problems (wouldn't even start) and trying to use the PPA > version seems to have messed up the whole system (so had to revert) > Eventually I went with Fedora "Sugar on a Stick" (strawberry flavor), > but we couldn't really make sense of it in the default boot setting > with the black-and-white icons and all the small help text in english. > Will try to look for some better testing instructions, but so far > it has stumped both adult and child trying to run it on the Netbook. > (Couldn't even figure out how to turn it off, so had to hard-power.) -------------- Thomas Leonard wrote: > Typing "halt" in the "Terminal" activity worked for me :-/ -------------- Rene Lopez wrote: > The version that worked right for me was 0.86 (Debian unstable) and it's > configured to work inside xephyr. I also didn't understood how it works > but so far this is what I have found: > * The X symbol represents you and your computer to shut it down right > click it and a menu should appear. > * The symbols that are around the X are the favorite Activities, left > click will open them. > * The small symbol under the X is the last used open activity. > * To switch applications you move the pointer to a corner and a frame > should appear. > * And finally if your computer only has a one button mouse you can leave > the button pressed to get the same behavior as the right click. -------------- Anders F Björklund wrote: > So I guess my experience with Sugar was similar to their experience > with Zero Install and trying to run the old Subversion feed etc... > But it seems less than smooth (chunky?) with Ubuntu 9.04 or Fedora 11. -------------- Rene Lopez wrote: > I think that the problem is that their target users have a teacher to > explain how to use it and the teacher has a printed manual so it's not > hard to them but for an outsider it will be very different to anything > that you have used and it doesn't self document making it somewhat > frustrating. _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel