On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:16:30PM +0000, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 04:24:30PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > On 27.11.2009, at 17:15, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > >> On 27.11.2009, at 07:13, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>> 
> > >>> Want to know what people think about Journal Plugins feature[1]
> > >>> and particularly that design team think about UI changes[2] involved
> > >>> in this feature.
> > >>> 
> > >>> [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Plugins#
> > >>> [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Journal_Plugins#UI_changes
> > >> 
> > >> I like the idea.
> > >> 
> > >> Reminds me of how in OS X, the Finder can be extended to support more 
> > >> file formats by a plugin stored in an application bundle. The Finder 
> > >> knows how to show previews for several document types (audio, video, 
> > >> multi-page document). It recognizes a limited set of formats (like jpg, 
> > >> mov, pdf), and the app's plugin simply needs to convert its own format 
> > >> into one of these formats. 
> > > 
> > > yup, I had the same in mind, API will let Journal plugin to use query
> > > (tags(which include MIME types tags) and search string) to restrict
> > > final set of objects
> > > 
> > >> That's a lot simpler than having to write an actual viewer plugin (which 
> > >> also would have to be maintained for every new version of the viewer). 
> > >> E.g., Etoys stores a thumbnail in its project file which are simply 
> > >> zipped, so the preview plugin just extracts the thumbnail picture from 
> > >> the project. Tt does not have to care about the actual UI used to 
> > >> display the thumbnail.
> > > 
> > > there is another benefit for separate plugins -
> > > plugins could be out of sugar release cycle(;P to core maintainers)
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Aleksey
> > 
> > I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, though maybe we do - so 
> > I'll be explicit:
> > 
> > I'm suggesting that activities would contain those plugins for the types 
> > they support.
> 
> got it, but not sure, we can get the same result with preview feature,
> in preview() every activity can "convert" its object to image, in my mind
> its more useful(at least for now) then complicated system with preview
> plugins.

[1] is more about adding special UI components, like for Books plugins,
add extra columns to object list(author, date etc) or subwidget
with preview etc.

-- 
Aleksey
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