Yeah How we detect what keyboard is present? Gonzalo
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com>wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Paul Fox <p...@laptop.org> wrote: > > i'd like to bring this discussion to a conclusion. > > > > i'm starting to be a fan of this proposal of bert's -- it's very > > simple, keeps the keys the same in sugar and in gnome, and on > > membrane and non-membrane keyboards, it's backwards compatible > > with existing use on XO-1, and the volume/ brightness keys remain > > easily discoverable. it does require that sugar respond to F5 > > and F6 for "journal" and "frame" -- i still don't have a feeling > > for whether that's an issue or not, and if so, how big. > > The only activity I am aware of that uses F5 and F6 on the XO is the > most recent version of Paint that Gonzolo is working on. Presumably > these keymaps could be grabbed by Paint when running on an OLPC XO 1.0 > or when we detect the membrane keyboard. Otherwise, we could keep the > mapping as Bert suggests. > > > any yeas or nays? > > Yeah. > > > > paul > > > > > > bert wrote: > > > > > > On 17.07.2010, at 09:31, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > > > > > > El Thu, 15-07-2010 a las 23:08 -0400, Paul Fox escribió: > > > >> i think everyone (except > > > >> apple, i'm learning tonight) agrees this is the correct setup > > > >> when not in sugar. > > > > > > > > Lenovo also seems to be switching to the Apple layout: > > > > > > > > > http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/thinkpadedgepost16.jpg > > > > > > > > http://www.thinkpads.com/wp-content/gallery/lenovo-thinkpad-edge-13-review/lenov > > > o-thinkpad-edge-13-keyboard.jpg > > > > > > > > Almost all the historic F-key mappings have an alternative CTRL+key > or > > > > ALT+key mapping in modern HIGs. Keys to control laptop volume and > > > > brightness are accessed much more frequently, so it's foreseeable > that > > > > over time they will supplant the F-keys in PC keyboards. > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > IMHO pressing "fn" to get "f1" to "f10" makes sense. In my daily > routine I much > > > more often change volume or brightness than use the numbered F keys. > > > > > > Looking at this again > > > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard > > > > > > I propose: > > > > > > f1-f8 produce F key codes both with and without the fn key > > > f9-f12 produce F codes only with fn, and volume/brightness events > > > without fn. > > > > > > So holding down fn always gets you the F key codes, you can change > > > volume/brightness without modifier, and as a bonus you can use the > first eight > > > F keys even without the fn key. > > > > > > This mapping should work both in Sugar and outside. > > > > > > - Bert - > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Devel mailing list > > > de...@lists.laptop.org > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > > =--------------------- > > paul fox, p...@laptop.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > -- Gonzalo Odiard Responsable de Desarrollo Sistemas Australes
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