On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Gary Martin <garycmar...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Walter, > > On 20 Aug 2012, at 00:57, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Gary Martin <garycmar...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >>> Hi Walter, >>> >>> >>> On 16 Aug 2012, at 16:53, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonz...@laptop.org> wrote: >>> >>> In anybody want test how activities work with the screen rotated in >>> >>> sugar-jhbuid, >>> >>> can do in the terminal: >>> >>> >>> xrandr -o left >>> >>> >>> when your neck hurts, or you have finished... >>> >>> >>> xrandr -o normal >>> >>> >>> Gonzalo >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>> >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> Works great. Check out >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/c/cb/Portfolio-27.xo which support >>> rotation. But I am curious why the stop button runs off the edge... it >>> would appear there is plenty of room for it. >>> >>> >>> Not sure if this is your issue (my land line has been down most of the day >>> and am on GSM network), but invisible separators still take space unless you >>> explicitly tell them not to: >>> >>> separator.set_size_request(0, -1) >>> >>> So your separator factory might need a tweak. See Physics activity.py line >>> 103 for a working example. >>> >>> Regards, >>> --Gary >>> >>> >>> -walter >>> >>> -- >>> Walter Bender >>> Sugar Labs >>> http://www.sugarlabs.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >> I've been thinking for quite some time that we need a new approach to >> the problem of toolbar items following off the end of the toolbar This >> problem will be greatly exacerbated by the more frequent use of screen >> rotate one would expect with more use of tablet mode on XO 4.0 Touch. >> Most activities have not taken into account the potential squeezing of >> the toolbar by 25% even of they take into consideration general >> resizing of the screen due to rotation. > > I know this is a tough line to take, but we should file tickets against > activities that overflow in portrait orientation – that includes Physics and > Calculate ;) > > It is quite an effort making a complicated multi-function Activity appear > simple, but letting activity developers off the hook to pile on features > without keeping their UI under control seems like a loosing direction to > take. Max ten icons in the toolbar (that includes the Activity toolbar icon > and the Stop toolbar icon). We've had decent sub-toolbar support in Sugar for > a long time now, lets make sure we prioritising that primary tool bar space > and putting the less used features into secondary toolbars. > > Regards, > --Gary > >> A simple solution would be to double the vertical size of the toolbar >> and wrap the icons onto a second row. >> >> comments? >> >> -walter >> -- >> Walter Bender >> Sugar Labs >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >
OK. I can accept that decision, but I expect that many many activities will have to change (including all the Turtle Art variants). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel