I think Sam shouldnt work on separate project, rather help us in improving exisiting one. And disscuis so radicial UI changes with us... On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 01:22 James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> Yes, that version loads faster. > > 15.855 seconds for load and render. > > 2.824 seconds for render only. > > But on your version, the video embedding element "Google Code-In | > Promotional video on Sugar" is beyond the visible area, only the > sugarlabs title on black background is visible. > > Scrolling down by one page using the '×' (multiply) game key incurs a > rendering delay; > > 1. if the key is pressed immediately, 9.744 seconds, > > 2. if the key is pressed after ten seconds, 2.864 seconds, > > Also, if the page is scrolled to position the video embedding element > in the centre of screen, then use forward key to move to another site, > then use back key to move back, rendering time is 14.008 seconds. > > Your version loads much faster on my desktop, despite the extra > latency of HTTP over SSL (https). > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:02:50AM +0000, Sam P. wrote: > > I think the load speed is caused by Tymon's site using basically every > > JavaScript and css library that has ever been published. Does this > version > > load faster @Quozl? [1]https://activities-2. > sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/ > > > > On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:30 am James Cameron <[2]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > Same test XO-1 laptop, same URLs, without clearing cache. > > > > [3]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... load and render 35.343 seconds, > > (previously 31 seconds), > > > > [4]http://sugarlabs.org/ ... load and render 6.064 seconds, > (previously > > 5 seconds), > > > > [5]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... render only, 14.080 seconds, > > (previously 14 seconds). > > > > [6]http://sugarlabs.org/ ... render only, 4.400 seconds, > (previously 3.6 > > seconds), > > > > My conclusion is that there has been no change to load and render > > since last test on the XO-1. > > > > Perhaps the video embedding element is the cause? > > > > Provide a page with and without the video embedding element for > > comparison? > > > > Three seconds on a modern system is still a surprisingly long time > > compared to the original site. This is a regression. Can't you > > include those separate files into the main file? > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 07:11:30PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Thank you all for your opinions. We'll try to consider/implement > them. > > James > > > Cameron - thank you for your data, they were useful. We've hade > > significant > > > changes to page's layout and performance. Please check it now. > We've done > > some > > > tests and page loads not longer than 3 seconds. UI is more cleaner > now. > > Please > > > take a look on this website - [1][7]http://tools.pingdom. > com/fpt/#!/ > > csIQSO/ > > > [8]sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > > > > > Again, waiting for your suggestions! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Tymon > > > > > > pt., 27 lut 2015 o 12:24 użytkownik samson goddy <[2][9] > > samsongo...@hotmail.com> > > > napisał: > > > > > > > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > > > From: [3][10]samsongo...@hotmail.com > > > To: [4][11]qu...@laptop.org > > > Subject: RE: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking > for > > opinions > > > /ideas! > > > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:20:15 +0100 > > > > > > Hello, I have a little addition to this website, But i am not > a web > > > designer but the "Activity Section" is suppose to change. When > i mean > > > change, If a user is wanting to download an activity, he/she > will be > > > scrolling down to actually find what he or she want and that's > no a > > good > > > idea. What if the activity section have a drop down menu > pattern or > > some > > > like this from this Project mudra site [5][6][12]http:// > > www.projectmudra.com/ > > > it will be faster. Also the head or menu should have a drop > down > > pattern. > > > The color is kinda brights for the eyes. Since we will be > porting to > > this > > > new site what if every thing should be in drop down pattern > just like > > the > > > [7][13]http://www.projectmudra.com/ site. Remember i am only > > suggesting. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Samson Goddy > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:30:09 +1100 > > > > From: [8][14]qu...@laptop.org > > > > To: [9][15]dwg...@gmail.com > > > > CC: [10][16]sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - > looking for > > > opinions/ideas! > > > > > > > > > > > I did that the first time, and I repeated it now. There was > no > > > > real difference. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:10:54PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > please try to visit [1][11][17]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > instead of [2] > > > http:// > > > > > [12][18]people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon , then there won't be > any 304 > > > redirects. Thank you > > > > > for other suggestions I will take a look on them tomorrow. > > > > > Tymon > > > > > > > > > > czw., 26 lut 2015 o 22:57 użytkownik James Cameron <[3][13] > > > [19]qu...@laptop.org> > > > > > napisał: > > > > > > > > > > It took a long time to load. See Firefox developer console > > > > > screenshots of query load times: > > > > > > > > > > [4][14][20]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/ > > tymon-load-times.png > > > > > [5][15][21]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/ > > original-load-times.png > > > > > > > > > > I suggest you check yourself the load times without cache, > and > > reduce > > > > > the number of servers that have to be resolved. Also > identify > > the > > > > > network speeds of the target market, and how they will > perceive > > load > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > The black text on saturated colours was very hard to read, > > because > > > > > there was not enough contrast between the text and the > > background. > > > > > > > > > > The animation of the titles seems unnecessary and > distracting. > > > > > > > > > > Some of the introduction is repeated word for word in the > About > > > > > section. > > > > > > > > > > The style of the embedded activities element is > inconsistent with > > the > > > > > surrounding page style. > > > > > > > > > > Given recent discussions, there's probably an overemphasis > on > > history > > > > > of Sugar, or the history of computing. > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise, good progress. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > James Cameron > > > > > [6][16][22]http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > > > [7][17][23]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > [8][18][24]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > > > [1] [19][25]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > > > > [2] [20][26]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > > > > [3] mailto:[21][27]qu...@laptop.org > > > > > [4] [22][28]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/ > > tymon-load-times.png > > > > > [5] [23][29]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/ > > original-load-times.png > > > > > [6] [24][30]http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > [7] mailto:[25][31]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > [8] [26][32]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar- > devel > > > > > > > > -- > > > > James Cameron > > > > [27][33]http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > > [28][34]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [29][35]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > [30][36]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [31][37]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > References: > > > > > > [1] [38]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~ > tymon > > > [2] mailto:[39]samsongo...@hotmail.com > > > [3] mailto:[40]samsongo...@hotmail.com > > > [4] mailto:[41]qu...@laptop.org > > > [5] [42]http://www.projectmudra.com/. > > > [6] [43]http://www.projectmudra.com/ > > > [7] [44]http://www.projectmudra.com/ > > > [8] mailto:[45]qu...@laptop.org > > > [9] mailto:[46]dwg...@gmail.com > > > [10] mailto:[47]sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [11] [48]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > > [12] [49]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > > [13] mailto:[50]qu...@laptop.org > > > [14] [51]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load- > times.png > > > [15] [52]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original- > load-times.png > > > [16] [53]http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > [17] mailto:[54]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [18] [55]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > [19] [56]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > > [20] [57]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > > [21] mailto:[58]qu...@laptop.org > > > [22] [59]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load- > times.png > > > [23] [60]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original- > load-times.png > > > [24] [61]http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > [25] mailto:[62]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [26] [63]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > [27] [64]http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > [28] mailto:[65]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [29] [66]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > [30] mailto:[67]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > [31] [68]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > [69]http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > [70]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [71]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > References: > > > > [1] https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/ > > [2] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [3] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ > > [4] http://sugarlabs.org/ > > [5] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ > > [6] http://sugarlabs.org/ > > [7] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/ > > [8] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [9] mailto:samsongo...@hotmail.com > > [10] mailto:samsongo...@hotmail.com > > [11] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [12] http://www.projectmudra.com/ > > [13] http://www.projectmudra.com/ > > [14] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [15] mailto:dwg...@gmail.com > > [16] mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [17] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [18] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [19] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [20] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png > > [21] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png > > [22] http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > [23] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [24] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [25] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [26] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [27] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [28] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png > > [29] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png > > [30] http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > [31] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [32] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [33] http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > [34] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [35] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [36] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [37] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [38] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [39] mailto:samsongo...@hotmail.com > > [40] mailto:samsongo...@hotmail.com > > [41] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [42] http://www.projectmudra.com/ > > [43] http://www.projectmudra.com/ > > [44] http://www.projectmudra.com/ > > [45] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [46] mailto:dwg...@gmail.com > > [47] mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [48] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [49] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [50] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [51] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png > > [52] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png > > [53] http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > [54] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [55] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [56] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [57] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon > > [58] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > [59] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png > > [60] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png > > [61] http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > [62] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [63] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [64] http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > [65] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [66] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [67] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [68] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > [69] http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > [70] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > [71] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >
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