I'm certainly willing to try again. However the community (starting with the Oversight Board) needs to support the initiative - technical work is involved on our side even with a partner, including work I probably don't even know about. And SL's immediate focus is on mentoring GSoC projects.
I will ask for an agenda item in the next Oversight Borard meeting or the one after. Sean. On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Iain Brown Douglas < i...@browndouglas.plus.com> wrote: > Hi Sean, > > Is it a thing that you would contemplate now, to approach Oracle (for > corporate sponsorship, perhaps) but in particular about what support > they would offer Sugarlabs towards our targets? > > Would there be a view against this idea? > > Regards, > > Iain > > On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 11:37 +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > > Yes, of course, which is why my idea was to get assistance. To be > > clear, I'm in favor of whatever solution could ease installation. > > Choosing a keyboard layout from scratch can be quite tricky for the > > uninitiated, the Virtualbox list is long with many variants > > ( > https://straymarcs.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/8.-select-keyboard.png) > although an autodetect button is available. If the teacher or journalist > has to configure language and keyboard a second time when booting the VM as > you mention, that qualifies as jumping through hoops. My goal was to work > with Oracle on a bundled installer+VM executable (which requires a matrix > by host OS in any case) to make the install as seamless as possible. I cite > Firefox because they propose a pancake button installer by probing the > website client (or analyzing the user agent, or whatever they do), with the > full matrix only 1 click away. > > > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard > > <godi...@sugarlabs.org> wrote: > > We can ask language and keyboard in the first boot as we do > > with age and gender. > > I think create and maintain a complete matrix of VMs will be > > more difficult. > > > > > > Gonzalo > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Sean DALY > > <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We need to do everything possible to reduce Sugar's > > installation and unfamiliarity barriers. Not everyone > > speaks English and can find and configure the Sugar > > control panel on their first encounter with Sugar. A > > keyboard mismatched with what appears on the screen > > merely gives the impression it doesn't work right. VM > > hosts could have a number of different keyboards - for > > example I have a Macbook with French locale Azerty > > layout > > > > (flipped numbers row, common accents) and a Dell > > education netbook with Belgium locale keyboard. Look > > at the Firefox "Systems & Languages" download matrix > > (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/), for a > > Sugar VM with bundled installer an interested teacher > > or journalist would just need to choose the > > appropriate download. > > > > > > I feel the huge sizes of these images would be more of > > a problem, but not much we can do there. > > > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Gonzalo Odiard > > <godi...@sugarlabs.org> wrote: > > > My idea at the time was to approach Oracle > > for corporate sponsorship > > > of Virtualbox images, in particular hosting > > a workflow to automate > > > prebuilt images by host language/keyboard, > > however some community > > > members were aghast at the idea. > > > > > > Is still needed have a vm by host > > language/keyboard? > > Or we can ask to the user using the same code > > from the Sugar control panel? > > > > > > Gonzalo > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron > > <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 06:26:34PM > > +0100, Sean DALY wrote: > > > My idea at the time was to approach > > Oracle for corporate sponsorship > > > of Virtualbox images, in particular > > hosting a workflow to automate > > > prebuilt images by host > > language/keyboard, however some > > community > > > members were aghast at the idea. > > > > Maybe now is a better time. Maybe > > those aghast at the idea haven't > > noticed yet. ;-) > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Gonzalo Odiard > > > > SugarLabs - Software for children learning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Gonzalo Odiard > > > > SugarLabs - Software for children learning > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > >
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