Presumably the jabber server is set to point to the server on the school server in your use case. This change would not impact that.
-walter On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > Currently, ejabberd is used on the school server (with gabble). Does this > change mean that something must be done on the XO or schoolserver to enable > collaboration (it is now automatic)? So far as I know, the XO uses salut > for ad hoc links and gabble with ejabberd. Generally, if it isn't broken, > don't fix it. > > Tony > > > On 01/19/2016 01:27 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > > I don't see this as a change disabling gabble so much as a change where no > default jabber server is specified. This forces salut (ad-hoc) to be used > until a jabber server is specified. > > Given pretty much everyone who uses gabble outside of testing uses their > own local jabber server and not Sugar Labs', there should be no user impact > {apart from apps currently being broken with gabble staying broken until > fixed}. > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> > wrote: > >> This is probably a correct analysis for those in the US with online >> broadband connection. However, at deployments which depend on the school >> server (those without internet access), gabble is needed to enable all XOs >> to collaborate. One of the first tests at a deployment is to ensure that >> XOs connected to the schoolserver are visible to each other (i.e. that >> gabble is working and not salut). >> >> Such a change needs a more thorough study. Should we limit collaboration >> to XOs with a common router (partition the LAN)? Does collaboration with >> salut work for XOs connected to the school server? Is it a reasonable >> restriction at a deployment that only some XOs can chat? >> >> >> Tony >> >> >> On 01/18/2016 12:14 PM, Sam P. wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Currently Sugar defaults to using "jabber.sugarlabs.org" as a >> collaboration server in Sugar on a Stick and other GNU distros (fedora, >> debian, etc.). However, I propose that we change the default (this >> release!) to use the local network (telepathy salut). This is a feature is >> that is already in sugar, and is used on XOs and normal computers. >> >> Why? >> >> * Better activity support. Tubes are supported by salut, but not by >> gabble (server based collab.). This means that activities that haven't >> been ported this cycle (most of them) will still work under salut (proposed >> default), but will not work under gabble (current default) >> >> * More contextual neighbourhood view. You only see people on your local >> WiFi (or wired) network. This is more helpful for finding your friends >> than the trawling the crowded jabber.sugarlabs.org neighbourhood. >> >> * More features. File transfers work via salut, but not via >> jabber.sugarlabs.org >> >> * More speed and less lag. Jabber.sugarlabs.org is hosted in the mit. >> While that is good if you are a student at the mit, it is very laggy if you >> are in say Australia. I prefer near instant collaberation provided by my >> local network. Even if you are at the mit, your wifi router is still >> closer than jabber.sugarlabs.org (hopefully) >> >> * Privacy. Users (specifically kids) aren't by default sharing their >> names and colours online and inviting others to send them things. >> >> Is this ok? Will defaulting to use salut (local network) cause any >> issues for anyone? Is this ok for the 108 cycle? >> >> Thanks, >> Sam >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing >> listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing > listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org
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