On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 7:52 AM James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 09:35:47AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > This is intended to ask questions and seek feedback. > > > > I've not really had time to deal with Sugar for some time, but it also > > doesn't tend to take up a lot of time so it's not been a major > > problem, we glue it together when it breaks etc. > > > > Kalpa has done a good job keeping most of the Activities up to date. > > > > But there's a number of things that are getting to the point where > > they'll need action or they'll break so I'd like to gather details > > from the Sugar community what their plans are here to see if it's > > worthwhile continuing the Fedora support of Sugar. > > > > 1) gstreamer 1.0 support in Activies. The 0.10 series is well and > > truly dead and unmaintained, but there's a couple of key Activities > > that still depend on it. Clock and Record are the two big ones here. > > Are there any plans to move them to gst1? > > They were moved. Check the release announcements and the tarball > directories. > > http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Clock/Clock-20.tar.bz2 > http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Record/Record-200.tar.bz2 > > > 2) GTK2 sugar-toolkit, again a number of Activities still haven't > > moved to gtk3, any plans? > > Yes. We have a contributor working on that now, so please make sure > we know which ones Fedora think are still GTK+ 2. Time critical. >
I found the following packages in Fedora still not moved to GTK3. sugar-analyze sugar-calendario sugar-castle sugar-connect sugar-countries sugar-deducto sugar-flipsticks sugar-kuku sugar-labyrinth sugar-moon sugar-paths sugar-playgo sugar-recall sugar-record sugar-view-slides sugar-xomail > > 3) eToys, we've not shipped this by default for some time, I plan on > > retiring it and any of it's dependencies in Fedora 29. Good riddance > > sugar-presence-service! > > I've no news on this one. Best to contact Etoys project. > > > 4) This is the big one... python2. With python2 being EOL real soon > > now is there any interest in moving to py3, I know there was some work > > years ago to do some readiness here with the move to gtk3 but I don't > > remember the details. Fedora is actively moving to python3 and has > > been for some years, I think for at least 6 releases it's been > > possible to run without py2 installed at all. Is this the nail in the > > coffin for Sugar? > > Our port to Python 3 is going well. We have good working code in pull > requests and branches, and plan to merge it once we have the critical > components complete. Our plan is in the GitHub projects tab for the > organisation. > > Your downstream transition plan can be one of; > > - package sugar-toolkit-gtk3 as both Python 2 and Python 3, so that > Python 3 activities can be packaged, and so that Python 2 packages > you have now need not be rushed into Python 3, > > - package sugar-toolkit-gtk3 as only Python 3, and make sure all your > Python 2 activity packages are either dropped or ported to Python 3. > > > Also with my note above about time and the points in between are there > > still people interested in Sugar on Fedora? Anyone interested enough > > to assist? > > I agree, downstreams need help, it's a big job to keep this > maintained. > > > > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > > SoaS mailing list > > s...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.netrek.org/ > _______________________________________________ > SoaS mailing list > s...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- Best Regards, Kalpa Welivitigoda http://about.me/callkalpa _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
