On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 05:42:26PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 03:23:47PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > > > The new design does not make any indication of which > > > network is presently associated in the Neighborhood view; perhaps we can > > > find an alternative method. Thoughts? > > > > Perhaps the currently-associated network's icon can appear below the > > XO icon, as the Journal does initially in the Home view. > > > > Could be tricky, since (hopefully soon) the view will be fixed so that the > current activity is beneath the XO, consistent with the Home view. There > may be other options, though.
It could also be made bigger (for a while I kept patching my MeshBox.py to make favorite icons bigger) than the others. Or a 128/128/128 rgb ring could be drawn around it. Well, you asked for ideas :). > > cjb suggested to me on IRC that Disconnect/Turn Off (for > > wireless/mesh, respectively) could just cut power to the radio. I > > then suggested that this would work if the restoration of power was > > quick enough that switching to the Neighborhood view could power back > > on the radio and update the icons in some acceptable lag. > > > Again, I don't think this is really the desired semantic. It's /almost/ > right, and is the traditional means of achieving this, but that also turns > off the ability to be on the mesh, which isn't necessarily what one means by > "disconnect from this AP". They should be independent. I realize this > isn't as crucial right now, since we can't be on both mesh and AP at the > same time, but in the future it's pretty clear that they need to be > orthogonal. I guess if they won't be independent for 8.1.2 it seems like it's exactly the right thing to do - whether I'm on the mesh or the AP, if I want to disconnect from the wireless and connect to the mesh I just hit the mesh channel in the mesh palette, so if I select "disconnect" I don't want to do that and thus have no use for the radio; and if I disconnect from the mesh I definitely don't need an AP (if I did, I would've chosen it). We thought about just doing a NetworkManager sleep, but then, well, again, what is the radio then good for barring drawing 1W of power :)? > > This problem (and it affects "Extreme power mode" too) is > > recorded in #7690. > > > > > The old behavior used to > > > switch into mesh mode, which disassociated with the network itself. > > > > This is much less desirable than powering off the wireless, IMO. > > > I agree. That's why there's no longer a disconnect option. We thought it > was better to remove it until it has a proper semantic, rather than > implement it in a peculiar and not readily understandable way. Again, "Disconnect" and "turn off" the wireless and mesh (respectively) seem to have quite intuitive semantics (to those not familiar with MPP usage): turn off the radio, since I don't want to use what it's providing (wireless or mesh connectivity). > - Eben Martin
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