Hi Jakob,

thank you for your answer, but Im afraid, that I dont quite understand this 
attribute still. I might be wrong, but could it be, that the letters you used 
(A,B,C) are a bit mixed up? Did you mean it this way?


"Consider two vehicles A and B in the main flow with time gap T and a vehicle C 
that wants to merge/pass in between.
T consists of
- a) the time vehicle A take to travel its own length
- b) the time gap between the back of vehicle A and the front of vehicle B
- c) the time for vehicle C to pass the intersection or merge which depends on 
the geometry of the intersection and the speed, acceleration and length of 
vehicle C
- d) the time gap between the back of vehicle C and the front of vehicle B

The value of jmTimeGapMinor models b) and d).
The values of a) and c) are computed from context values such as junction 
geometry which has the effect that required gaps for turning left or passing 
across are larger than those for turning right."


So if I understand right, there is no difference in Sumo, if a vehicle I being 
first or second in line to merge into the main flow? The Attribute 
jmTimegapMinor would therefore be more comparable to Grenzzeitlücke than 
Folgezeitlücke (Sorry I cant find an appropriate Translation), right?


Thank you and Kind regards,


Florian


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Von: sumo-user-boun...@eclipse.org <sumo-user-boun...@eclipse.org> im Auftrag 
von Jakob Erdmann <namdre.s...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. Juli 2018 20:41
An: Sumo project User discussions
Betreff: Re: [sumo-user] Appropriate values for jmTimegapMinor

Hello,
the values from the table refers to gross time gaps in the main flow that a 
vehicle would accept for merging.
Consider two vehicles A and B in the main flow with time gap T and a vehicle C 
that wants to merge/pass in between.
T consists of
- a) the time vehicle A take to travel its own length
- b) the time gap between the back of vehicle A and the front of vehicle C
- c) the time for vehicle C to pass the intersection or merge which depends on 
the geometry of the intersection and the speed, acceleration and length of 
vehicle C
- d) the time gap between the back of vehicle C and the front of vehicle A

The value of jmTimeGapMinor models b) and d).
The values of a) and b) are computed from context values such as junction 
geometry which has the effect that required gaps for turning left or passing 
across are larger than those for turning right.
I would assume that the default value of 1s is not too far off but I'm not 
aware of any calibration effort that went into that choice.

regards,
Jakob



2018-06-30 10:57 GMT+02:00 florian preusse 
<flopreu...@hotmail.de<mailto:flopreu...@hotmail.de>>:

Dear Sumo-Users,


I´m still working on the behaviour of the vehicles in my simulation and there 
is one attribute, that I would like to set, but I´m not quite sure which value 
would be appropriate. The attribute I´m refering to is the following:



jmTimegapMinor  float s         1       This value defines the minimum time gap 
when passing ahead of a prioritized vehicle.


In a german guidline it says, that there is many different values for time gaps 
that a car needs to perform a right turn, left trun or crossing movement ahead 
of a prioritized vehicle. It also says, that it´s relevent, if the vehicle is 
first in line (e.g. 6.7 s for a crossing movement of the first vehicle) or if 
it is just following the vehicle in front (e.g. only 3.3 s for a crossing 
movement). The table I´m refering to is shown underneath.


[cid:2830fd7a-cba9-4173-b4fb-58d9cf8c3a35]


Now I would like to know, if there is anyone who has experiences in setting 
jmTimegapMinor, because as far as I understand, it is representing all of these 
different values in one attribute. Is that right? And if so, why is the default 
value set to 1 s?


My first thought would have been to choose a value in the middle so, something 
around 4.5 s for regular vehicles, because they are performing all of the 
different movements in my simulation. Another approach, that comes to my mind 
is choosing the highest value of the given table. But then it really reduces 
the capacity of my unsignalised nods.


If anyone as a good idea, how to handle this attribute or knows about other 
attrbiutes to specify the movements more in detail, I would be very grateful!


Thanks a lot and kind regards,


Florian Preuße

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