Lets say you have two types with the following matrices car: truck A B 100 A B 10 A A 200 A A 20 B A 150 B A 15 B B 50 B B 5
If truck is always 10% of car (no correlation between pairs and fleet) then you can define your matrix as fleet A B 110 A A 220 B A 165 B B 55 For od2trips the type is just a string value and no definition for the type is needed. When using this with sumo or duarouter you can define a vehicle type distribution like this (probabilities are normalized automatically): <vTypeDistribution id="fleet"> <vType id="car" probability="100"/> <vType id="truck" probability="10"/> </vTypeDistribution> or if you need to refine the fleet further you can use <vTypeDistribution id="fleet"> <vType id="car1" probability="50"/> <vType id="car2" probability="50"/> <vType id="truck1" probability="3"/> <vType id="truck2" probability="7"/> </vTypeDistribution> Am Mi., 13. März 2019 um 10:35 Uhr schrieb <christian.damdjow...@zf.com>: > > > Yes but , > > What do you mean with “no correlation between OD-relation and type” ? I > don’t really get this point. > > The OD Matrix is defined for a specific vehicle type. So if that mean a > correlation, then I have some correlation between the both. > > Furthermore i think for every vehicle type, one have to generate a new > distribution. If i have as example 3 different type of vehicle I would have > 3 vehicle type distribution. So the next step what is not really > understandable for me, is to know how OD2TRIP would know the information > about this additional file (vTypeDistribution)? Because in od2trip there is > no option “—additional-file”. In this case I have to define as well for > every type a new OD matrix. > > > > Br > > christian > > > > > > > > *Von:* sumo-user-boun...@eclipse.org <sumo-user-boun...@eclipse.org> *Im > Au**ftrag von *Jakob Erdmann > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. März 2019 10:19 > *An:* Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@eclipse.org> > *Betreff:* Re: [sumo-user] question relative to TAZ > > > > - Only the amitran format allows multiple vehicle types in the same input > file. > > - If there is no correlation between OD-relation and type, then you could > use a vehicle type distribution and avoid splitting the matrix by type. > > - You will always need at least two calls to generate vehicles and persons > because you need to set the option --pedestrians or -persontrips to get > persons. > > > > Am Mi., 13. März 2019 um 10:09 Uhr schrieb <christian.damdjow...@zf.com>: > > Hello Jakob, > > > > thank you for the hint. > > > > That mean if I’m not using Amitran-format. > > I have to define for in a step for 1 hour a new O/D Matrix. Should I do > that for every object type (passenger car, bicycle , pedestrian …) in this > case I think is a lot of work to that. Do we have somehow the possibility > to define in the same O/D Matric different object type ? > > > > Thank you against > > > > Br > > > > Christian > > > > *Von:* sumo-user-boun...@eclipse.org <sumo-user-boun...@eclipse.org> *Im > Auftrag von *Jakob Erdmann > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. März 2019 07:59 > *An:* Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@eclipse.org> > *Betreff:* Re: [sumo-user] question relative to TAZ > > > > Alternatively, you could use the Amitran-format > https://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Demand/Importing_O/D_Matrices#The_Amitran_format > which allows modelling multple time slices and vehicle types in a single > input file (in this case od2trips only needs to be run once). > > > > Am Di., 12. März 2019 um 17:45 Uhr schrieb Jakob Erdmann < > namdre.s...@gmail.com>: > > If you wish to model demand time lines that vary among the OD-pairs, you > will have split your matrix along the time axis > > (one matrix from 0-1 o'clock, one matrix from 1-2 o'clock etc...). > > In this case, the documentation regarding timelines becomes irrelevant. > > You then have to run od2trips multiple times and load all the generated > trip files into duarouter (or directly into sumo). > > > > regards, > > Jakob > > > > Am Di., 12. März 2019 um 15:27 Uhr schrieb <christian.damdjow...@zf.com>: > > Thank you Jakob, > > > > i have another question relative to this point. > > In the picture down you can find an picture of a excel file > > > > > > In this picture “+” is source and “-“ sink. > > As you can see there I have to for every edgeID a different timeline. > > My question is to know the O/D matrix have to know the corresponding > timeline for specific edgeID. > > Also for me is at the moment not really clear how to define in the same > timeline file, different timeline which correspond to different edgeID, and > how we have to do the corresponding of this information in the O/D matrix. > Because the Absolut number of vehicle for every edge have to be define in > this. So based of this value the percentage in the timeline can be > calculated. > > Is the some more explained example? > > I got some overview here : > https://sumo.dlr.de/userdoc/Demand/Importing_O/D_Matrices.html#Daily_Time_Lines > > But this example is not more detail in the explanation. Because we cannot > see how The file Name (TGw2_PKW.txt, etc. …) are define. > > Please could you give me more hint ? > > > > Br > > > > Christian > > > > > > *Von:* sumo-user-boun...@eclipse.org <sumo-user-boun...@eclipse.org> *Im > Auftrag von *Jakob Erdmann > *Gesendet:* Montag, 11. März 2019 14:13 > *An:* Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@eclipse.org> > *Betreff:* Re: [sumo-user] question relative to TAZ > > > > You can use the same TAZ id for FROM and TO to describe traffic within > that zone. > > > > Am Mo., 11. März 2019 um 13:53 Uhr schrieb <christian.damdjow...@zf.com>: > > Hello Sumo users, > > i have a question relative to the description of TAZ File. > > Normally after describing an TAZ File we have to write the Matrix Cell. I > am using the O-Format, which is given by the form: > > FROM | TO | NUMVEHICLES > > FROM and TO are both the TAZ id. > > We can also use Differentiated Probabilities to describe TAZ . > > So we can give in the same TAZ id many tazSource and Tazsink. My question > now is to know, if I just have one TAZid which have the complete definition > of Source, Sink and their weight. How should I describe the O-Format Matrix > cell ? > > I mean normally I have to put the TAZid Source (FROM) and TAZid sink (TO). > But now all the source and sink are located in the same TAZid. How should > we do ? > > > > Br > > > > Christian > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sumo-user mailing list > sumo-user@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user > > _______________________________________________ > sumo-user mailing list > sumo-user@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user > > _______________________________________________ > sumo-user mailing list > sumo-user@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user > > _______________________________________________ > sumo-user mailing list > sumo-user@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >
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