Hi Jakob,

Just to confirm that this fix does seem to have fixed the problem. Many
thanks.

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 13:24, Jakob Erdmann <namdre.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the example. I did uncover a bug in the insertion code that
> has now been fixed (https://github.com/eclipse/sumo/issues/10137).
> You can download an updated version of sumo tomorrow at
> https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Downloads.php#sumo_-_latest_development_version
>
> Am Mi., 9. Feb. 2022 um 16:18 Uhr schrieb Ste Millington <
> stemilling...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Please find attached my config. I've tidied things up a bit and do appear
>> to be now getting slightly higher densities but there still seems to be a
>> bottleneck at densities lower than I would expect.
>>
>> I have also attached a few graph showing how the average gap, effective
>> flow and average speed alter as i increase the vehsPerHour parameter. The
>> all seem to flatline at around 6000.
>>
>> Many thanks for taking a look at this.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 09:54, Jakob Erdmann <namdre.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The spacing of 90m is unexpected for your setup, With the above
>>> configuration, you should see an average spacing of roadSpeed + vehLength +
>>> minGap (i.e. ~20m for 13.89/ms = 50km/h road and 7.5m length+minGap).
>>> Depending on road speed you should be seeing 1800 - 2000 v/h/lane.
>>> If you use departSpeed="avg" instead of "max", capacity goes up to 2400
>>> v/h/lane
>>> see also https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/RoadCapacity.html
>>>
>>> Please post your (zipped) scenario files to figure out why you are not
>>> seeing this.
>>>
>>> However, insertion flow alone will never lead to a breakdown of the
>>> flow. For that you need some sort of speed disturbance downstream.
>>> If you set sigma="1" you will see occasional breakdowns but they will be
>>> short-lived (and due to a known issue with the Krauss model, this only
>>> works at 1s step length).
>>> An alternative for inducing break-down would be a variable-speed-sign
>>> https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Variable_Speed_Signs.html
>>> https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Tutorials/FundamentalDiagram.html
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Jakob
>>>
>>> Am Di., 8. Feb. 2022 um 17:23 Uhr schrieb Ste Millington <
>>> stemilling...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> I'm struggling to get high flow rates in a simple model, just a
>>>> straight 5km stretch of 4 lane highway.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using multiple flow elements with probability set close to 1.
>>>> However i can't seem to get the flow rate to ever go above 4000 vehicles
>>>> per hour. This only gives me 1000 vehicles per hour per lane and an average
>>>> vehicle spacing of 90 metres. I was hoping to be able to achieve a
>>>> breakdown of the flow.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried tried setting step length to 0.1 and using multiple copies of
>>>>
>>>> <flow id="flow_0" type="DEFAULT_VEHTYPE" begin="0.00" departSpeed="max"
>>>> departPos="last" departLane="best" route="route_0" end="3600.00"
>>>> probability="0.9"/>
>>>>
>>>> But after a certain point nothing seems to make much difference. I'm
>>>> sure I'm doing something wrong or not perhaps just misunderstanding the
>>>> traffic dynamics somehow.
>>>>
>>>> Should I be able to ramp up the flow rate to a point where the traffic
>>>> flow breaks down?
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