Thanks Jakob!

I expected you would ask for the minimum failing example, in fact I have tried but was not able with an example built from scratch. My guess is that the behavior is due to specific intersection shape and edge geometry. So I'll work on that. Maybe I should take short edge warnings more seriously.

Of course I'll also upgrade.

Best,

Joerh

On 22/04/22 14:39, Jakob Erdmann wrote:
The latest development version does indeed fix some deadlocks that could fit your description. If you still see deadlocks with https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Downloads.php#nightly_snapshots please provide a minimal failing example.

best regards,
Jakob

Am Do., 21. Apr. 2022 um 15:31 Uhr schrieb joerg <schweizer.jo...@gmail.com>:

    Hi all,

    Using the sublane model (1m sublane width) I'm observing at some
    junctions that vehicles get blocked right in front of junctions.
    There
    seems a common pattern:

    - there are 2 or 3 vehicles standing in parallel on the same lane
    entering a junctions (typically 1 car+1 motorcycle or 3
    motorcycles side
    by side). More than 3 vehicles in parallel do not fit due to the
    limited
    total edge width.

    - vehicles seem to block each other, even though they are heading for
    either  the same edge, or to different diverging edges; target
    edges are
    free of traffic

    - Something has made those vehicles stop, either a previous
    downstream
    congestion or a traffic light signal; but after the congestion
    went away
    or green light, those vehicles remain blocked and do not move until
    teleport.

    - in all cases there is some divergence, either from 1 to 2 edges or
    from 1 to 2 lanes.

    The phenomenon generally happens in heavily congested networks. I
    have
    see this kind of behavior already in the past, currently I am using
    version 1.12

    Is there any trick to resolve those conflicts or has this problem
    been
    addressed in the latest development?

    Thanks for any hint.

    Best wishes,

    Joerg

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