Hello,

Thank you for the quick answer. It is still not clear to me though, what
are the suitable input files? Let me phrase my case and questions in more
detail:

In TraCI, as far as I can see now, when creating a new vehicle it has to
receive an existing route before it can be added. But if I want to put
vehicles on every edge, then I need to add an enormous amount of routes,
because I need routes with every edge of the network as starting point.
Which brings up the following questions:
1. Is it possible that vehicles can start at any edge of their route, such
that I only need a limited set of routes, and then I can put vehicles on
several edges of this route?
2. If the answer to 1 is NO, then I wonder about whether an alternative to
the described method makes any difference: insert every vehicle using the
same default route, then change the route of each vehicle by providing a
list of edges (and change the location of the vehicle). Does this make a
difference internally, or does the 'changeRoute' method also add a new
Route to the list of existing routes anyway?

But since TraCI is slower, I'd like to have a simulation with initial
traffic without using TraCI. The only method I can currently think of is
creating/generating an additional xml file with a list of vehicles. But
from sumo-generated vehicle files I see that each defined vehicle should
have a route that is defined in a route-file, which means that I also have
to generate an enormous amount of routes (a few routes times the number of
edges in the network)?
3. Is there a smarter way of doing this (without using TraCI) and is there
any help or documentation on how to do this? And does question 1 has the
same answer for this case?

Best regards,
Pieter


On 12 January 2014 17:15, Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
> when you start a simulation you cannot only define flows but also
> individual vehicles with their positions and speed. This allows you to
> initialize your network with any desired traffic state. (If you only have
> the number of vehicles on an edge you need to make up plausible positions).
> You will need to write a script to transform your information table into
> suitable input files.
>
> When running your simulation under control of a TraCI script you can also
> place vehicles on any position and with any speed you desire. Thus you
> could fill your simualation in the first step and then continue your
> simulation from there.
>
> regards,
> Jakob
>
>
> 2014/1/11 Pieter Loof <[email protected]>
>
>> While working with SUMO, so far I see that each simulation starts with an
>> empty road network. When starting the simulation, vehicle flows start
>> generating vehicles at the boundaries of the network. But now I want to
>> start a simulation with initial traffic. The idea is to perform a
>> predictive simulation, in order to find out how the traffic evolves, using
>> the current traffic conditions as the initial network situation.
>>
>> So suppose for example that I have a large information table, with for
>> each
>> network edge the number of vehicles on it and the average speed. Then one
>> of the SUMO modules should be able to read this information and generate
>> the initial traffic on the network.
>>
>> Now I wonder whether this is possible with TraCI and whether this is
>> possible without TraCI? If so, please provide more information on how to
>> do
>> this. If not, then I think this is very important future work, since
>> starting simulations with an empty network is highly unrealistic in
>> certain
>> cases, it makes it virtually impossible to reproduce a received live
>> traffic state and thus virtually impossible to make traffic forecasts.
>>
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