Hello, currently, the only tool that gives you a random distribution for a fixed-number flow is duarouter with the option --randomize-flows The input route file to duarouter should define a flow with vehsPerHour or some other fixed-number attribute. regards, Jakob
2017-04-17 11:37 GMT+02:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod <[email protected]>: > Hi, I get something that i want to know about randomness flow on SUMO . I > want to know that can i generate the flow with some fix number like 1200 > vehicles per hour but use the probability to let the demand be randomness > approximate to Poission distribution. As i read the documentation on SUMO > wiki. I have found that these two attribute which are "probability" and > "vehPerhour" cannot be defined together in SUMO. > > Best regards, > > Jirayu > > 2017-04-13 14:00 GMT+07:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod <[email protected]> > : > >> Thank for answering , Now i can generated the output by class of vehicle >> type. Now i have consider on the output of edgedata. About a month ago, I >> have asked about the density in SUMO which now i'm understanding that it's >> calculated from dwelling time. But in the macroscopic model that i want to >> verify, there's some definition about density which is the number of >> vehicle at the end of time step in the considered cell (edge). Therefore, i >> have read the documentation in wiki SUMO and found that the attribute >> "arrived" has the same definition that i want. So i want to make sure that >> my understanding is correct or not? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Jirayu >> >> >> 2017-04-11 18:30 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hello, >>> the 'vTypes' attribute is only available for E1 detectors since version >>> 0.29.0. You are using an older version of sumo where these detectors used >>> the attribute >>> splitByType="true" >>> to affect output split by types. Please refer to the documentation that >>> came with your sumo version for details (or upgrade to the latest version >>> instead). >>> regards, >>> Jakob >>> >>> 2017-04-10 6:41 GMT+02:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod <[email protected] >>> >: >>> >>>> Dear Jakob, >>>> Thank you, I have some few problems with loop detectors (E1) , when I >>>> write the attribute "vTypes" to generate two type of vehicles output such >>>> as bus and car. The outputs look to be the same in every generated output >>>> i.e. flow, occupancy, speed,..., etc. and I have attached the additional >>>> file that i have written. Do i understand something wrong ? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Jirayu >>>> >>>> 2017-04-10 2:38 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> yes >>>>> >>>>> 2017-04-07 18:22 GMT+02:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your kindness with information.If i use detector E1 or >>>>>> E2 , all of generated output can be summed up to consider about the >>>>>> output >>>>>> of that edge , isn't it ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jirayu >>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-04-07 12:29 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann <[email protected]> >>>>>> : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> my wording was imprecise. What I meant to say was: >>>>>>> If you want to simulate detectors on all lanes of an edge you either >>>>>>> need to use E2 (or E1) detectors for each lane or you can define an E3 >>>>>>> detector that covers the whole edge. If you want to capture traffic data >>>>>>> over the whole length of the edge you use edgeData-output as well ( >>>>>>> http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simulation/Output/Lane-_or_Edge-bas >>>>>>> ed_Traffic_Measures) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sumo simulates lane-changing whenever there is more than 1 lane >>>>>>> going in the same direction. >>>>>>> When using the sublane-model (http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>>> ation/SublaneModel) lane-changing within a single lane is also >>>>>>> supported. >>>>>>> With a suitably prepared network, overtaking through the opposite >>>>>>> direction edge is also supported (http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>>> ation/OppositeDirectionDriving) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-04-06 15:33 GMT+02:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you Jakob, I have found some paper about lane changing in >>>>>>>> SUMO but still don't follow up. Could you give me more information >>>>>>>> that now >>>>>>>> SUMO can do the lane changing in each edge or not and if it's , how to >>>>>>>> adjust it ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> best regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jirayu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2017-04-03 16:58 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Only consecutive lanes can be simulated with E2 if you need >>>>>>>>> parallel lanes you should use E3 instead. >>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-04-03 10:40 GMT+02:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, Jakob >>>>>>>>>> I have some few more questions which is about >>>>>>>>>> areadetector in SUMO(E2) http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>>>>>> ation/Output/Lanearea_Detectors_(E2) . My question is can we >>>>>>>>>> simulate areadetector such as L1_0,L1_1,L1_2 together in one >>>>>>>>>> detector ? or >>>>>>>>>> only consecutive lane can be simulated >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bank >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-15 15:17 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-15 1:46 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much , if i consider on per edge then l = >>>>>>>>>>>> length of the edge , am i right ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> jirayu >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-14 23:28 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> density = s / t * 1000 / l >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> s = sum of seconds all vehicles spent on the edge within the >>>>>>>>>>>>> aggregation interval >>>>>>>>>>>>> t = aggregation interval in seconds >>>>>>>>>>>>> l = length of the lane in m >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-14 16:12 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear user and developers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have few question about density output that how >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does density in SUMO calculate ? I mean that SUMO program is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> calculated by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> approximation with travel-time or count the vehicle in specified >>>>>>>>>>>>>> edge or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> others ? I want some information because i would use it in some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> macroscopic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> model. Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jirayu Tippayagulpairod >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-09 9:20 GMT+07:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much. It's helped me a lot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-08 22:39 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes. (don't forget the quotes) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vTypes="bus" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-08 9:09 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh thank you very much, It means that you use this for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <edgeData id="<MEASUREMENT_ID>" file="<OUTPUT_FILE>" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vTypes = bus/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and import this as additional file before simulation , am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i right ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bank >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-07 14:08 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the metrics you require will be available separately >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for each of the types you select (see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simula >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion/Output/Lane-_or_Edge-base >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d_Traffic_Measures#Value_Descriptions). By setting a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different value for the output 'file' attribute for each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type, it is easy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to process them separately as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-06 9:10 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your suggestion. But i still have some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confused that if i generate the output via edge data , >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could I export the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output that I mentioned before (edge performance e.g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> density and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traveltime ) I apologize for any misunderstanding .I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some beginner in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUMO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jirayu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-06 13:49 GMT+07:00 Jakob Erdmann < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When using simulated induction loops ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ation/Output/Induction_Loops_Detectors_(E1)) you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set the attribute splitByType="true" to get type-specific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When using edgeData (http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ation/Output/Lane-_or_Edge-based_Traffic_Measures) you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can filter for type by setting the vTypes attribute (i.e. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vTypes="bus"). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You will then need a separate <edgeData>-definitions for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each type (or list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of types) you are interested in. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-02-03 2:33 GMT+01:00 Jirayu Tippayagulpairod < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear user and developers , >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm student in Thailand who do the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project with SUMO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program and I have some question to ask. As I used >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUMO , it can simulate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the many type of vehicle in traffic and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output is in form of enter , left ,density , travel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time but it doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show each type of output (For example : I mean that 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outputs for car and 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outputs for bus individually) Therefore, I want to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know that Can SUMO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulate the outputs individually for each type of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicles or it cannot ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jirayu Tippayagulpairod >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world's most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sumo-user mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sumo-user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ sumo-user mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sumo-user
