------Original Message------
From: Ron Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Steve Lelievre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: September 18, 2000 2:28:25 PM GMT
Subject: RE: How do I turn my DeltaCad design into reality? Machine cutting 
question


Steve,

This is one of the most frustrating aspects of all CAD programs in general.  
The heart of the problem is that there are several versions and implementations 
of DXF (the most common exchange format).  DeltaCAD exports to version R12 
which is not very good at supporting complex drawings.  I have had success two 
ways, the second being the best.  I have had this problem with most of the 
drawing programs, even the $400 one, especially if the sign maker is using 
AutoCad.  

1.  Send the DXF file and have their art department clean up the drawing.    

2.  In DeltaCAD save each different object on a different layer.  For example, 
all of the text in one, all of the light lines on another, etc. Export it as a 
DXF file.  Then import the DXF file into a program that the shop can read 
directly.  I have had very good luck with COREL DRAW 9. Its only $120 at 
colleges, and can export in many formats such as DXF R14. Many shop can use 
Corel Draw directly.  Clean up the drawing and send it.  For the Madjet, I had 
to clean up the text (which is always the case), set line thickness, and put 
caps on the tiny line segments of a curve to make it not so jagged.

I have talked to the developer of DeltaCad and he says the next version of it 
will support R14 of DXF which does support the complex shapes and line 
attributes.

If there's anything I can do to help let me know.  I think a lot of people 
would like to know how get a design engraved.  There might even be a few on the 
mailing list that have done it before.  


++ron

PS:  I have tested the concept of putting DeltaCad  routines in a C++ DLL that 
can be called in.  I hope to put many of the low level functions such as dAsin 
there to reduce the size and complexity of writting a dial macro.  














------Original Message------
From: "Steve Lelievre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Sundial mailing list <[email protected]>
Sent: September 18, 2000 1:21:18 PM GMT
Subject: How do I turn my DeltaCad design into reality? Machine cutting question


I would like to take a design made under DeltaCad, and get it cut into a
brass plate. None of the local engravers can handle the job (they just do
little plaques for sports trophies). The only local millwright does not have
computer controlled cutting machines. The local signwriter can accept
electronic designs, but only if they're in PrintShop Pro format, and they
can't do engraving or etching, only silk screen.

My current plan is to send the design away to a company that can do computer
controlled cutting, but I've still got the problem of file formats. Assuming
that .DXF file would be a universal format, I saved a DeltaCad drawing as a
DXF and reloaded back to DeltaCad to check the results. Sadly, the copy no
longer matched the original. It seems that either DeltaCad does not process
DXF correctly, or that the DXF standard does not cover fancy drawing
attributes. The width of lines in the copy did not match the original, text
was altered because the font information was lost and the orientation
reverted to horizontal.

Should I approach millwrights, engravers, or do I need specialists such as
instrument makers?
Is there a standard file format for controlling cutting machines?
What is the conversion path required to get a DeltaCad drawing into that
format?

Steve

 

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