Hi all,

Martha had difficulties getting this reply throught to the list and
asked me to relay the following:
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Thank you John,
I am glad you have seen the analemmatic web.

Since I began in gnomonics, I thought  the better sundial
for a place where many people do not pay attention to a sundial,
it would be an analemmatic, because it is specially attractive
because the human participation required to its functioning.

Some time ago it was a discussion on this list about
analemmatic sundial next to the tropic as a problem because
the shadow length, and I was a little worried about. I wrote
Frans Maes and he helped us to determine the better major
axis of the dial for this latitude and people height average.

We did a small model and we saw the problem is only in certain
dates and certain hours and even this, we decided to build it,
considering the sundial will work O.K. almost  all the year.
I went to the sundial the Jun 22 at noon and... guess what...
yes, I practically did not have a shadow (an interesting event
too), but being at 41° C, I was lonely on the park!!

> I noticed that the date divisions are at ten day intervals so
> that the correction numbers don't look crowded. If one week
> divisions were used, the dateline might get pretty busy.
> Looks great the way it is.

This has resulted very practical because it is easy to get an
average between two values, but in retrospective it would be
also necessary to include the date  where the correction
numbers are, because even if we mention this on the instruction
panel, people who try to understand the sundial by themselves,
they have problems to identify which date is.

I do not know about any analemmatic on the tropics, at least,
not in American Continent.

Greetings to all,

Martha
Torreón, Coah., México
25°32' N
103° 27' W

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: Analemmatic sundial in Torreón, Mexico


Hi Frans and Martha:

That's a fine sundial and a great webpage. I also like the terminator maps,
but I particularly like the time correction feature on the date line.  This
built-in table of correction values solves in a simple neat way the problem
of showing the Daylight Savings Time correction (or legal time in Mexico) as
well as the correction for The Equation of Time, without the use of a
confusing analemma on the date line.

I noticed that the date divisions are at ten day intervals so that the
correction numbers don't look crowded. If one week divisions were used, the
dateline might get pretty busy.  Looks great the way it is.

I also noticed that this dial is located very close to the Tropic of Cancer,
making the dateline almost reach the time line. So this dial is about as
close to the Equator as you can make an analemmatic and still have it work
ok.  There are also problems with analemmatic gnomons being too short in the
tropics  (Does anybody even know of any analemmatics located in the tropics?
I doubt there are any.)

John

p.s. Is it correct to say that an analemmatic face collapses into a polar
dial at the equator?

John L. Carmichael Jr.
Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona 85718
USA

Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: <http://www.sundialsculptures.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frans W. Maes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sundial List" <sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
Cc: "Villegas, Martha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:12 AM
Subject: Analemmatic sundial in Torreón, Mexico


> Hi all,
>
> An enthousiastic group, headed by Martha Villegas, has established a
> beautiful analemmatic sundial in Torreón, Mexico, probably the first one
in
> the country.
>
> Read all about it at: http://www.biol.rug.nl/maes/torreon/welcome-e.htm
>
> A special addition here are the terminator maps, depicting the twilight
line
> across the Mexican Republic at local sunrise and sunset on three dates.
>
> Regards,
> Frans Maes
> 53.1N, 6.5E
>
>
>
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