>Does anyone know who first proposed a heliocentric solar system?<
 
Aristarchus of Samos, ca. 250BCE
 
 
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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: Retrograde motion Re: Birthday Challenge

The retrograde motion of the planets (Mars in particular) is something that it very easy to observe.  In fact, the ancients certainly were much more familiar with the heavens than we are.  They had more time at night and were outside more.  They didn't have light pollution to deal with, or television and inside lighting to keep them from looking up regularly.
 
Retrograde motion cannot really be explained with a geocentric model.  It was attempted and even believed, but the theories were far-fetched.  (Easy to say with hindsight!  :o)
 
I'm lucky enough to live in a rural setting (15 miles to the nearest town, and it's not very big or bright), so I get to see the Milky Way regularly in  the Fall and Winter.  Without meaning to, I keep track of the motions of the planets in relation to the celestial sphere, etc.  If someone in ancient times were serious academically about studying the issue, the retrograde motion was a big factor, I think.
 
Does anyone know who first proposed a heliocentric solar system?
 
Albert Franco


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In einer eMail vom 20.2.2004 03:42:38 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Weeeellll, the Foucalt Pendulum would prove that the Earth rotates, but I
don't think it gives any evidence that it revolves about the Sun. What
could we do to take it a step further?


It does in principle, but it would be hard to get the accuracy.  Other things, like parallax and astronomical aberration, are also impossible to measure with 15th-17th century technology.  But I'm sure once you convinced people with a Foucault pendulum that the Earth moved *at all*, it would be only a small step from accepting rotation to accepting revolution.

Art Carlson

P.S. I can't leave that loaded pun lying around where children might play with it:  The revolution was the rotation.  Once that was accepted, the revolution (of the Earth around the sun) was no longer a revolution (in world view).


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