<x-charset windows-1256>I think there are two very similar but slightly different mottos here using similar but distinct verbs
Praetereo - go by, pass by (ae not oe I think) Pereo - perish, pass away, vanish The meaning is essentially the same - they [the hours] pass and are reckoned Perhaps a Latinist can comment on the relation between the two words? Also Eheu fugaces, labuntur anni - (labuntur not labantur I think) - derives from Horace, Odes 2 14, meaning something like Alas, the fleeting years slip away though in the original the proper name of the friend to whom it is addressed occurs twice in the middle of it (Postume, "O Postumus"). Another sundial connection: from Boswell's Life of Johnson: An instance at once of his pensive turn of mind, and his cheerfulness of temper, appeared in a little story which he himself told to Mr Langton, when they were walking in his garden: 'Here (said he,) I had put a handsome sun-dial, with this inscription, Eheu fugaces! which (speaking with a smile) was sadly verified, for by the next morning my dial had been carried off.' Andrew James -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Bateman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2005 19:43 To: Sundial List Subject: Latin scholars Assistance please. I have a motto in Latin that appears to have different translations. Which is correct? The motto is on a pair of vertical dials and Mrs Gatty (4th edition 1900) gives the following PrŮ’tereunt: They pass by Imputantur: They are reckoned However, our respected editor, Dr Margaret Stanier gives the same(?) motto as Pereunt et Imputantur as (The hours) pass away and are set down to (our) charge Margaret, in her small book on Oxford Sundials, shows this motto on the dial at All Souls' College and says that it is a quote from Martial's Epigrammata. The mottos don't look the same, but given the scope for mis-copying, are they supposed to be the identical? Comments please, Doug PRI Limited, PRI House, Moorside Road Winchester, Hampshire SO23 7RX United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1962 840048 Fax: +44 (0) 1962 841046 www.pri.co.uk The Intelligent Metering Company This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - </x-charset>