Dear John,

What you describe resembles an azimuth sundial. See for instance the 
Plochingen sundial in Karl Schwarzinger's collection:
http://members.aon.at/sundials/bild44_e.htm
In this case, there would be no clear-cut alignment with anything, 
including the (in)famous path...

Best regards,
Frans
www.fransmaes.nl/sundials


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> Forgive me, for returning with yet another tiresome proposal:
> 
> On reflection I suspect Mr Phillips may not be totally wrong-headed.
> On any one day the azimuth of the shadow of a static human
> shadow-caster can be marked by a circular arc of hour-marks or indeed
> by hour-marks fixed along two straight lines parallel to Mr Phillips'
> driveway.
> 
> This arrangement would be accurate on only two days each year.  But
> it would be a simple matter to move all the hour-marks (except the
> noon-marker) say once a week, or less frequently at the solstices
> when Kentwell Hall might be busiest.  Anyone on this mailing list
> could print off the necessary page of solar azimuths, or preferably
> shadow azimuths, at weekly intervals.
> 
> So I would envisage a single spot, perhaps in the middle of a
> decorative compass rose, for the shadow caster to stand on.  The
> human gnomon might be at the centre of a circle of, say, 360
> identical bricks, at 1-degree intervals.  The print-out would tell Mr
> Phillips which brick should hold each hour-mark for the current week;
> it could painlessly incorporate the equation of time and daylight
> saving.
> 
> No self-respecting diallist could be happy with this proposal, but it
> does seem to meet most of Mr Phillips' criteria for a human sundial,
> albeit no longer analemmatic.
> 
> John Lynes
> 
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----From:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 
>>> Dear Sundial Experts, I have recently joined this Mailing List,
>>> and hope
>> that any members will be
>>> able to give me some assistance on the following
>> situation.
>>> Our local Stately Home ("Kentwell Hall",
>> Long Melford, Suffolk) is
>>> considering installing an Analemmatic sundial, as a
>> new interactive
>>> attraction for visitors - but we are getting
>> 'conflicting' advice, on
>>> whether this 'Human Sundial' will work in the
>> way we want it to. We have
>>> been in discussion with "Modern Sunclocks"
>> (apparently the acknowledged
>>> 'experts' for these features), who have told
>> us that its central scale of
>>> dates must be aligned North/South - plus that hour
>> markers must be correctly
>>> positioned on an elliptical ring, and which would lie
>> on the Northern side
>>> of that scale of dates. Photographs on their website (
>>> www.sunclocks.com )
>> confirm this.
>>> However, our 'Director of Operations' (Mr
>> Phillips) absolutelyINSISTS that
>>> he wants the scale to run exactly parallel with
>> ourmain driveway - on a
>>> compass bearing which is about 162 degreesfrom North,
>> with the hour points
>>> placed on its Southern side.He also wants the hour
>> points to form an exact
>>> semi-circle, andnot be elliptical in shape. Mr
>> Phillips refuses to accept
>>> thathe cannot arbitrarily position the Human Sundial
>> feature as hewishes,
>>> and says that it must be possible to create this so
>> thatit could then align
>>> with the existing layout of buildings/paths. Can anyone on this
>>> Mailing List tell me whether it is
>> possible toinstall a
>>> Human Sundial to fit any existing orientations,
>> (withappropriate
>>> re-calculation of its component parts) - or, if
>> not,just confirm that it
>>> must be as "Modern Sunclocks" have told me. I can then show the
>>> 'weight of evidence' to Mr
>> Phillips. Because"Kentwell
>>> Hall" is a well-known Stately Home (open to the
>> public),we should not want
>>> to become a 'laughing stock' by installing
>> afeature which does not work -
>>> despite Mr Phillips assurance that"all types of
>> sundial can be adjusted to
>>> work, in any location". Looking forward to all comments (to this
>>> List, or sent
>> privately).
>>> Sincerely, Alison Shields.
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