Thanks for the correction.  Someday it will be nice to have time to get back to 
active dialling.

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, Fred Sawyer <fwsaw...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Fred Sawyer <fwsaw...@gmail.com>
Subject: Are there any accurate mass-produced or reproduction 
horizontalsundials?
To: "Sundial List" <sundial@uni-koeln.de>
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 10:51 AM

Thad,

"And if a person wants to correct for longitude, they can tilt their
dial up a degree on the left or west side for every degree into the
time zone they are. "

Not so.  The adjustment to be made requires a rotation around the
polar axis - you don't get that simply be lifting the east or west
side of the dial - that's equivalent to rotating around the horizontal
meridian line, which would take the gnomon out of the meridian plane.
The correct way to do this has been covered a number of times in The
Compendium - see in particular 3 articles on the topic in the March
2000 issue.

Fred



On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Thaddeus Weakley
<thadweak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Horizontal dials are very nice in that if they are made well to begin
with,
> can easily be adjusted for any place in the world.  When mounting a
> mass-produced dial made for 40 or 45 degrees in the UK, simply place a
wedge
> of sorts under the northern side to bring the gnomon angle up to the
higher
> latitude angle.  Likewise the southern edge of the dial to lower the
gnomon
> angle to match that of lower latitudes.
>
> And if a person wants to correct for longitude, they can tilt their dial
up
> a degree on the left or west side for every degree into the time zone they
> are.
>
> Thad
> 45.3N 73.3W
>
> --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Chris Lusby Taylor
<clusbytay...@enterprise.net> wrote:
>
> From: Chris Lusby Taylor <clusbytay...@enterprise.net>
> Subject: Re: Are there any accurate mass-produced or reproduction
> horizontalsundials?
> To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de, clar...@aol.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 5:42 AM
>
> 
> Hi Ken,
> The situation may be better in the USA, but here in the UK the main
problem
> is that practically all garden centre horizontals I've seen (I try to
avoid
> them) are made for a much lower latitude than our 50 to 58 degrees.
> My advice to people asking this question has been to go for an adjustable
> dial, which mostly means an armillary sphere, which is going to cost a lot
> more than $100.
>
> Several dialists with Web sites have published guidelines for purchasers:
> how to identify a good sundial by looking at its angles, the 6am-6pm line,
> noon gap and so on. There's been good discussion on this list, too -
you
> could look in the archives.
>
> I'd say that the noon gap is likely to be the least of your problems.
>
> Good luck
> Chris
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: clar...@aol.com
> To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:47 AM
> Subject: Are there any accurate mass-produced or reproduction
> horizontalsundials?
> Hi everyone,
>     Some people ask me for recommendations on what sundial to buy.  
But
> most do not want to spend a lot of money.   Are there any mass-produced
or
> reproduction horizontal sundials that are reasonably accurately made?
>  Where the gnomon is on the 6 ‘o’clock line, with a noon gap, and
both
> styles have a clean edge and under $100.00.
>      A lot of museums sell the small 4 ½ inch diameter gray zinc
sundial
> that looks like it is made correctly till you notice that there is no noon
> gap for only about $15.oo now.    If only it was made correctly.  I am
> looking for something larger for a garden.
> Thanks in advance,
> Ken Clark
> Elizabethtown, PA
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