Dear All,

An intriguing question has been raised on the
Italian Sundial list by Fabio Savian.  Slightly
re-expressed he is asking...

  When specifying the orientation of a plane
  dial, is your order:

   A) Declination then Inclination

   B) Inclination then Declination   ?

This is important because rotations are not
commutative: R1.R2 does not equal R2.R1.

My own answer is firmly (A) and (slightly
simplified and avoiding using either word)
I think as follows:

   1.  Start with a vertical plane facing
       due north (sic).

   2.  Rotate about a vertical axis until
       it has the correct azimuth.

   3.  Rotate about a horizontal axis until
       the tilt is right.

I use this order because both rotations are
about axes IN THE PLANE being used.  This
keeps rotation matrices simple and so on.

An alternative is:

   1.  Start with a vertical plane facing
       due north.

   2.  Rotate about a horizontal axis until
       the tilt is right.

   3.  Rotate about a vertical axis until
       the azimuth is right.

This is fine but the second rotation is not
about an axis in the plane being used.

Here I quote a delightful observation by
John Davis in the BSS Glossary referring
to a definition of inclination:

   Beware: this convention is not followed
   by all authors.

He could be referring to a host of other
definitions :-)

OK.  Which way do you all do things:

   Dec then Inc   or   Inc then Dec  ?

There is no right answer but it would be
interesting to hear who does what!

Frank King
Cambridge, U.K.

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