Oops , sorry -- Hit the wrong reply button on THAT one.

Happy Solstice to all.

Steve W


On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Steve and Ann wrote:

Sheila:

Looks like what we said; and I think it's OK. (One typo: "Betsys" should be "Betsy's".)

Steve





On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Kevin Karney wrote:

Dick
Thanks for that correction. I am sorry I was being so insular and did not think it all through.

One is seeing the interplay between two equations :
1) sunset/rise being (more or less) = 12 +/- [acos{tan(latitude) . tan(declination)}]/15 with declination change rather minimal around the solstice
2)      equation of time changing rapidly around the winter solstice.

There is a third influence - but I think it probably plays an insignificant part - the difference between the usually quoted geocentric equation of time and its topocentric cousin - which varies the equation of time by up to a second dependent on both time of day and latitude.

Best regards
Kevin

On 20 Dec 2010, at 12:39, kool...@dickkoolish.com wrote:

The date of earliest sunset depends on Latitude and is not
always Dec 14.  See: http://www.idialstars.com/eass.htm




Dear Colleagues

In the depths of a freezing Northern winter, there's time to think about days of special interest. There are six significant solar dates around
this time of the year.

Three are special and probably known to all...
        21st December  - half an hour before midnight - the Winter Soltice
25th December - not only Christmas day, but one of the four days in the
year when the equation-of-time is zero.
        3rd January - Perihelion when the Earth is closest to the Sun,

One day is perhaps of interest only to the serious heliochronometer
user...
23rd December - the day when the equation of time is changing at its
maximum rate of almost 30 secs/day

Two days are nothing more than obscure, except to the numerically obsessed
- or to those who like strange questions to ask on quiz nights....
        14th December - the day on which the Sun sets earliest in the day
        29th December - the day on which the Sun rises latest in the day
See the graph below. If you wonder why this is so, it is because there are two effects in play (a) the daily change in sunrise/sunset as a result of declination change is minimal around the solstice and (b) the effect of the equation of time with its large eccentricity component as the Sun
races forward towards perihelion.

p.s. the graphs are for 54 degrees North latitude; the y-axis scale will
change at other latitudes.
p.p.s. dates are UT - so they may vary with your local longitude.

Have a wonderful Christmas season.

Kevin Karney

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