> But still, dont know how to turn out HP thin client in
> beauty contest (POC)
What applications are being accessed?
Make sure you don't share the same app server. If SRSS has already been
installed and that server's used by the competition, the HP's can use
SRSS's dhcp service - if HP have to set up dhcp, it's an extra task and
the customer will notice the extra work needed.
Ensure you make smartcards part of the PoC.
Make the time it takes to deloy a solution something to be measured as
part of the PoC.
Make managing clients part of the PoC - firmware and app updates, for
example.
Some ideas to get you going...
Chris
fitra budi anggoro wrote:
Thanks guys...
I finally can ensure my customer to have sun ray
without having fighting with HP in POC. I just come
out with those benefit (no os, ROI, stuff like
that), especially with sunray 170, they really have
nice look (even only seen in the brochure hehe).
But still, dont know how to turn out HP thin client in
beauty contest (POC)
anyway, thanks a lot guys
Cheers,
Fitra
--- Anthony Worrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi
The nice thing about SunRays is that SUN treat them
as peripherals of
the server.
So as long as you have a support contract for you
server the SunRays are
supported.
We bought SunRay 100s when they first came out and
used them with and
E250. We are now
running with a V210 and will probably replace that
with a new server in
a year or two.
I am not sure I would like to run Java Desktop on
the Ultra 5s we bought
at the same
time as the E250. They are now used as zone based
web servers.
As an aside we do seen to get quite a few of the 100
fail with a solid
orange light
on the front. Is this peculiar to the 100 or do ther
Sunrays have a
simila propblem.
Anthony Worrall
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 20:45, Ralf K. Wiegand wrote:
I think you have to look at the ROI. I beleave
the
SunRays have a 3 or 5 year warranty. Some of the
Sun
guys on this list can help me out with this. I'm
sure
HP will say they are so wonderful and Linux here
and
Linux there.... The point is, the Sun Boxes are a
bit
more expensive, but look at the log-term
investment.
Solaris 10 is the most robust OS around and the
hardware will un for a long time. So I like
Quality
over quantity. ...
--- fitra budi anggoro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Thanks Ralf, Jeff and also Christ. Its very good
input for me.
But this is sales stuff, do you know how can
kick Hp
thin client @$$ in real life? like to beat HP
within
POC. Iam going to use solaris 10 and srss 3.1.
But
HP will come in with their Linux and dont know
with
their management sw? any idea would be very
appreciate
Thanks a lot guys
"Ralf K. Wiegand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Big difference between SunRay - DISPLAY over IP
-
and
the HP "thin client" solution.
SunRay's do not have a local OS running and are
really
considered a Display device, like your TV, a
true
thin
client. HP thin clients still require some sort
of
OS
on the HP box. If you use Windows XP e?? not
sure of
the correct version, but you still have to deal
with
virus and patch problems.
SunRay's connect to a direct dedicated
interconnect
or
private network, a shared interconnect or remote
networks. very easy to setup and manage, even
with
failover and load balancing configuration. Both
will
use Citrix inorder to access MS resources.
SunRay SRSS 3.1 has greatly improved from his
older
versions. We are currently running several test
pilots and users like the hardware (5y/w).
Display
is
nicer and the speed has improved as well
(booting
and
display). I only can highly recommend SUN's
solution
and I'm sure that this technology will be a big
part
of high speed data networks in the very near
future...
Ralf
--- fitra budi anggoro wrote:
Guys,
Anyone knows about competition sunray with HP
thin
client , especially within their solution?
bought
can
use Linux right? but what about their sw
management?
Sunray have Srss but as i know, hp use
altiris,
which
only can run on windows.
Thanks in advance
Fitra S.
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